Any way of darting a bullion Tank Badge

[yorkstone]

RTR sleeve badge in Silver wire it is sewn on to my frame so cannot show the back.

On standard badges the position of the gun is key to the period worn does this transfer over to bullion badges?

I have owned this badge over 40 years so has some age

Regards

Stephen

[yorkstone]

Bump no one?

When did this Patten come in to use I believe it is Officer quality

Regards

Stephen

[fearnaught]

Hi Stephen, shortly, I have no idea. It has thick bullion which usually means early, pre 1950's at a guess. The design is different to any that I have ( do you want to get rid of it?) The main design differences are, it has a short gun, mainly due to a large gun turret. The turret itself doesn't have an L shape to the rear. The gun has a small appendage at the rear which I've not seen before. The cupola on top is smallest I've seen on a bullion tank. All in all, a very interesting example. At a guess I would say, WW2 or before, ME or Indian manufacture, a catchall for I don't know, hope this helps in some small way, best wishes Mike

[manchesters]

Originally Posted by fearnaught

Hi Stephen, shortly, I have no idea. It has thick bullion which usually means early, pre 1950's at a guess. The design is different to any that I have ( do you want to get rid of it?) The main design differences are, it has a short gun, mainly due to a large gun turret. The turret itself doesn't have an L shape to the rear. The gun has a small appendage at the rear which I've not seen before. The cupola on top is smallest I've seen on a bullion tank. All in all, a very interesting example. At a guess I would say, WW2 or before, ME or Indian manufacture, a catchall for I don't know, hope this helps in some small way, best wishes Mike

Mike,

I am guessing from your name on here and this reply that you are knowledgable about tank badges. Please could I pick your brains on the matter of these arm badges.

As Stephen has mentioned, it is often quoted that he angle of the turret gun is an indicator to its date of manufacture. I wondered if you could expand on that and is it always true, or are they just just manufacturers differences as opposed to actual known official/unofficial changes in the badge?

Interested to learn

regards

[fearnaught]

Hi Stephen, the position of the gun doesn't help with bullion, they are usually straight, even modern ones, best wishes Mike

[fearnaught]

Hi Simon, you must have posted whilst I was replying to Stephen. There is no hard and fast rule, but WW1 badges appear to have straight guns probably as at that time most people were familiar with tanks. If the gun was sloped it would be having severe problems. Latter tanks had the turret on top and the gun lock held the gun up so I'm assuming that is why it changed. Certainly by WW2 the official issue had a sloped gun. ME and Indian manufacturers did their own thing. A similar event happened with the Desert Rat. The first examples were made by people who knew of desert rats so they are anatomically correct, once they were made in England they morphed into something resembling a kangaroo, hope this helps Mike

[manchesters]

Mike,

Thankyou, that does help.

regards

[yorkstone]

Mike
Thanks for your knolededge , as I have said I have had this badge over 40 years in my collection so have no intention to move on.

It is on one of my Cavalry boards see attached. I have often wondered it's age.

Regards to all

Stephen