4thLondonYeomanry

[hindoostan]

Just bought this badge for £5. Think it's good, maker marked on reverse.
Is this a rare badge, just looked on a well known site and one priced at £280!!
Even halving this price, it's still an expensive badge. Is this a short time used badge.
Cheers
John

[mike_vee]

A couple of threads , one from 2011 and another from 2020 :

https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...enzil+mortimer

https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...ers#post518656

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[Luke H]

It is a fake I’m afraid.

[hindoostan]

Thanks both. Damn I thought I had a bargain there! Somebody has gone to great lengths there with the fake Gaunt mark.

[magpie]

Not really, for probably less than £100 you could get a mould made and get them made at 48 in one go in brass or a silver type metal and sell them like badge man did by the bucket load to those who think or hope they've got something a bit special.

[Hoot]

There was me thinking it was a genuine 3rd/4th CLY badge with the wm CLY replaced with a wm 4. That 4 is badly off-centre which is why I thought that.

[leigh kitchen]

Another cheapo 4 CLY badge, I thought I'd risk £4.
A crisper, neat little badge in the hand, it's roughness shows in the images.
It's cast in white metal with a gilt finish which is almost entirely worn off.
Long lugs (lug).
A "locally made" officer's badge or a straight forward fake?

[magpie]

Direct from the Garry Lineker Walkers collection I take it.

[leigh kitchen]

Not a "Bazaar" badge?

[Hoot]

Originally Posted by leigh kitchen

Not a "Bazaar" badge?

Not so much "Bazaar", more like "Bizarre". That's one of the worst 4th CLY specimens I've ever seen.

[leigh kitchen]

Yes, a strange little item, as I say it does look better in hand. I was thinking bazaar rather than an outright fake as it would, as a fake, be extremely unconvincing. Oh well.....

[Alan O]

Unless the regt served in India or Egypt in WW1 or between the was or the like I fail to see why a bazaar badge would exist.

[leigh kitchen]

The regiment served in N Africa during WWII.
I used the term "bazaar" but was thinking of a cheap locally made cap badge for an officer. Didn't seem very likely.

[Luke H]

As mentioned by Leigh they were in the desert in WW2. In WW1 they didn’t exist yet as 4th C.o.L Yeomanry.

My cynicism and dislike for sandcast badges is well known I’m sure. Appreciate the donor for the casting was not a common fake but the challenge for your badge Leigh would be why does it have what appears to be European factory made copper loops?

A genuine Gaunt badge below.

[leigh kitchen]

No idea re. the lugs, especially as they're long, if a unit workshop badge rather than a bazaar type it doesn't explain those.
I had noticed that there were a couple of cast 4 CLY badges offered on ebay described as cast from "Walker and Hall" badges (not from the same master as this badge.