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[Alan O]

Originally Posted by Hoot

Nice early Northamptonshire Regiment badge with what Gaylor describes as the "Regimental" castle.

It is surprising just how many of these appear in WW1 collections. They must have been quite common despite being obsolete in 1901. Is it lugged or fitted with a slider?

[Luke H]

Originally Posted by Alan O

It is surprising just how many of these appear in WW1 collections. They must have been quite common despite being obsolete in 1901. Is it lugged or fitted with a slider?

There is a cohort which I’m certain are WW1 pattern errors akin to the flat topped East Surrey and modified 2 tower Suffolks. They too appear in WW1 photos.

Unlike the others mentioned however the Norths long key / regimental castle is occasionally found in an all GM strike.

Attached are 2 I believe are WW1 period. I’m very certain Billy’s has or did have a slider.

[Alan O]

Possibly an old die pressed into service in the great badge shortage of 1915.

[Sonofacqms]

Interestingly I have seen a two tower Suffolk badge online advertised as Edwardian, this backs up the story I have been told many years ago that they were made in error and issued during the Great War from stock.

Maybe the Regimental Castle Northampton's was also made in error, the die saved and struck in G/M in 1916.

Rob

[Alan O]

The Northants was made correctly and not in error before 1901 and was made with lugs. The slider version was a WW1 badge and therefore not made in error and stored for a decade before being issued. Possibly a reuse of an old die in the same way as the flat topped East Surreys exists.

The 2 Tower Suffolks was clearly not made with a slider in 1902 but perhaps the die was cut and ten re-used in 1915 as you suggest.

[Luke H]

Originally Posted by Sonofacqms

Interestingly I have seen a two tower Suffolk badge online advertised as Edwardian, this backs up the story I have been told many years ago that they were made in error and issued during the Great War from stock.

Does nothing of the sort. There are thousands of badges misdescribed online, that is just another.

[Luke H]

Originally Posted by Alan O

Possibly an old die pressed into service in the great badge shortage of 1915.

Would have to compared the dies to be certain but I’m quite sure they’re not the same as the high quality prototypical QVC/Edwardian era examples found with toned black loops and braze holes.

[billy]

The Northamptonshire badge is Slidered

[billy]

Lancashire Fusiliers, though sewn onto belt there is a slider which can’t be seen because of an added portion of canvass, this covers the slider?

All the best Billy

[dubaiguy]

Originally Posted by Luke H

Would have to compared the dies to be certain but I’m quite sure they’re not the same as the high quality prototypical QVC/Edwardian era examples found with toned black loops and braze holes.

Not a well focused image, but my particular examples of the Vic/Edwardian badge (top left) and 'circa 1915' poor quality badge (top right) are from different dies.
Mark

[dubaiguy]

Without being able to see the makers mark on the slider, can you share what salient features made the correct deduction that the Lancs Fusiliers was of Lambourne manufacture ?