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#47
21-07-13, 10:28 AM
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Thats not good Iain! whats wrong with general service badge?
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#49
21-07-13, 11:17 AM
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Have you been able to indentify who did? maybe its a contemporary name used back then?
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#50
21-07-13, 11:52 AM
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Frank, you know how cynical soldiers are, but no, I've never tried to find out the origin.
Perhaps it is from WWI because the soldiers of the SA Brigade weren't allowed to wear their unit badges. They actually fell directly under the British as an imperial force as SA regiments weren't allowed to fight outside of Southern Africa. In GSWA it was OK for SA regiments to be there as they were defending their border but even in GEA it was like newly formed units. I think they may have also fallen directly under British command. regards Iain
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#51
21-07-13, 06:04 PM
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Hello Iain,
Yes, when you attested for the 1st SA Infantry Brigade, you were joining for "imperial service" outside of the Union, very clearly set out before each man in black and white, on their provisional enrolment. Kind regards Frank Quote:
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#52
21-07-13, 10:47 PM
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Seen both terms used, prefer Bok myself. Frank, Bok is the Afrikaans for Buck and as the badge was actually a Springbuck, it was shortened to Buck, Bok and sometimes goat in a porthole! History lesson over....I personally like the badge and there are many varieties, William Endley has an amazing collection of the various versions  !Regards Brian
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#53
22-07-13, 06:17 AM
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Hullo Frank
Many thanks for posting pictures of your medals. Excellent story and a brave man. Delville Wood is a fascinating battle. I still need to visit the battlefield as I have never had the opportunity!! Regards Dudley
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#54
22-07-13, 09:29 AM
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Hello Dudley,
I have always liked them, not just because of what went on in 1916, but, because, you can get their service papers and files etc and they are so complete, not so easy with the British Army. Kind regards Frank Quote:
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#55
22-07-13, 09:45 AM
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LOL Brian,
Would you hazard a guess as to which Buck/Bok the badge might represent? Their are just so many, I was thinking maybe a Thomson's Gazelle or a Uganda Kob, don't think it would be anything exotic, like a Chanler's Mountain Reedbuck or a tiny Guenther's Dikdik, or would it?  Ah, you see, you just think I'm a dumb Englishman!  Regards Frank Quote:
Last edited by Frank Kelley; 22-07-13 at 12:58 PM.
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#56
22-07-13, 10:11 AM
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Hi Frank,
thanks for confirming that, its another grey area. kind regards, Iain Quote:
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#57
22-07-13, 10:16 AM
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Hi Brian,
thanks for the history lesson and for clearing that up; so both terms are correct. Not heard from Will for a while  Oh and Frank, its the Springbok, which is the National Emblem, or it was???? It certainly is the National Rugby teams emblem still. regards, Iain Quote:
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#58
22-07-13, 01:05 PM
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Okay Iain,
Thanks for that, a dumb Englishman would be confused, but, is it a ram or a ewe and is it a plain one, a black one or a white one? Frank Quote:
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#59
22-07-13, 02:00 PM
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Hi Frank,
I'm not actually sure because you can only see its head, but Nancy, the Springbok in the first post, was a ewe and they have been known to come in a goldish colour, white, black and silver!  regards, Iain Quote:
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#60
22-07-13, 07:57 PM
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Frank
No such thing a a dumb Englishman, Britian colonised a large part of the world and in doing so civilised those areas......an historical fact that the present British generation are apologising for doing Here are the Springbucks that are represented on the badge, these two roamed the garden of a friend of ours in Cape Town....I have just entrenched the image most people have of Africa Sadly one of them was killed by the owners dogs after he had head butted them once too often..very sad, my mate had reared them from small!http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springbok Regards Brian Last edited by Brian Conyngham; 22-07-13 at 08:03 PM.
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