10th Gurkha Rifles Cap badge or collar?

[MH331]

This 10GR badge came in a lot of WW1 badges out of my collecting area and knowledge is it a cap or boss badge or a collar badge. It will be offered for sale.

Thanks

Mark

[JerryBB]

its size and being on lugs suggests collar to me, certainly all the boss badges I have seen are not on lugs and the cap badges for the gurkhas I have seen tend to be bigger, but whatever it is, it is a very nice looking silver badge.

[Mike H]

It's the older one,as the 10 is above the kukri,so pre 1949
Possibly a beret badge as there arent any scrolls.

[MH331]

Thanks Both. I think it is silver but no marks.

[cbuehler]

I believe that is actually a cap badge, as worn on the Kilmarnock (round cap) by Nepalese officers of the regiment. It is likely post war.
Collar badges were not worn.
CB

[tonyb]

Isn't the bugle facing the wrong way for a cap badge?
Tony.

[gurkharifles]

Its definitely a collar worn any time from 1925 > 1950.

[cbuehler]

Yes, it does appear to be a collar after all, but I can find no photos of it in wear. It is the same very small size as the pill box cap badge worn in photos from the 1950s.
Perhaps a mess dress collar badge?

CB

[gurkharifles]

The collar in question is illustrated in the Gurkha Museum's book on the insignia (10GR E2C) - it measures 21mm high x 22mm wide. It can easily be identified as a collar as the bugle faces the "wrong way" for a cap badge. I suspect that its late 1940's but before 1950 (when the design changed) - I have several examples of the collar badge in it's various incarnations - most have square lugs, some are north and south, the British made ones tend to have round lugs - the post 1950 collars tend to have a single lug. Tim