The Border Regiment

[Paul Spellman]

Dalman the nephew entered the business in the 1920’s the FN marking on their silver items expired in 1936, D&N was then prevalent
look up pipe tubes for bagpipes made by the company

[Luke H]

The company name did not change until 1962.

They are now part of Ammo & Co and state this on their website.

[Paul Spellman]

I’m not sure why that date 1962 is there.
They certainly marked items from around 1936 with D&N
A pretty long apprenticeship for Mr Dalman if correct

Some marks pre 1960

[Luke H]

As I said they’re now part of AMMO.

From the horses mouth...

https://www.ammoandco.co.uk/pages/se...ching-division

Quote

’’The company remained in the ownership of the Narborough family and in 1925 a Mr S.C. Dalman, a Narborough nephew joined the company. In 1962 S.C. Dalman succeeded in being appointed Managing Director when the company changed its name to Dalman & Narborough.His son, John P. Dalman joined the company who in turn, became managing director in 1971. His son, Stephen J. Dalman became his successor in 1993.’’

So not an apprenticeship but when he became MD. Which is entirely conceivable.

Hallmarks are a different kettle of fish entirely and no inferences can be drawn versus a sheet metal mark.

[Frank Kelley]

Who are these Illuminati, what do they do?

Originally Posted by Paul Spellman

Having established with Luke the Illuminati confers FN badges are a bit iffy
This badge in particular is a common restrike which is usually found unvoided around the China dragon, it has however been drilled out noticeable with the circular holes which make the voiding and the colour change within. The rusty slider and white metal tabs are typical to this fake.
As an aside the red backing should be a small circular disc
It’s fanciful to think this is a FN die struck badge considering they never held any contracts for badge production.