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Old 08-06-13, 07:25 PM
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Default South African Navy Diver Insignia

Hi all, anyone out there able to provide me with definitive information on South African Navy Diving insignia from 1946 to the present day. Particularly interested in images. Also of interest are diving badges worn by South African Special Forces/Recce Commandos.

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Old 12-06-13, 07:00 PM
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I have the following SA Navy Divers badges in the collection, not that I am a big collector of Navy insignia! The metal ones were also worn by qualified SF divers until replaced by a metal Attack Diver badge either in silver or brass. The red cloth badge is the earliest. They come in two sizes. The larger divers badges also indicate the wears course qualification level.
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Old 13-06-13, 04:54 PM
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Default South African Navy Diver Insignia

Hi, Thanks that's really great! lovely badges! Can you tell me what each one actually means, are they similar in rating to the Royal Navy?

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Old 14-06-13, 11:49 AM
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Hi All
Some more info on SAN trade badges:
The SAN branch and trade badges were based on the RN badges. One of the main differences was that the star changed to a 5-pointed star. The ratings were divided into the Seaman and Trade Branches. The Seaman Branch badges were independent of rank but the Trade Branch badges followed the rank structure, ie: no star Seaman; one star Able-Seaman; two stars Leading Seaman; Lion and one star Petty Officer.

The Seaman Branch badges up to the 1970s were as follows: one star Part 3; two star Part 2; Lion and one star Part 1; Lion and two stars Instructor. In the 1970s the structure was changed to be: one star-Part 1; two stars-Part 2; Lion and one star-Part 3; Lion and two stars-Instructor.

Gold bullion wire badges were worn on No.1 and No.2 uniforms but were private purchase, yellow cotton on black embroidered badges were the issued badges. Number 1 uniform was full dress with medals and No.2 was full dress with only medal ribbons if applicable. Red on black badges were worn on the No.3 uniform which was working dress, but the use of the red embroidered badges was discontinued in the late 1970s though they were still worn by members who had them well into the 1980s. Blue on white badges were worn on the summer uniforms and action working dress.

As with the RN, Chief Petty Officers and Warrant Officers wore smaller versions of the ratings badges on the collars of their winter and black uniforms and these ranks also wore a Petty Officer sized trade or branch badge on the left breast of their action working dress shirt in blue-on-white.

The metal badge shown I don't think was ever worn by SAN divers though this mistake has been compounded by Owen's book, though I'd b happy to be corrected.

The modern badges shown are post-2003 plasticised type. These no longer have the stars to represent levels of qualification, just the divers helmet for qualified divers and with the crest of the coat-of-arms for part 3 qualified divers who would be CPO's or WO's.

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Old 14-06-13, 11:51 AM
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More info:
The last 3 pics are the cuff badges for ships divers, circa 1960's & 1970's, though probably used into the 80's.
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Old 19-06-13, 11:41 AM
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More info:
The last 3 pics are the cuff badges for ships divers, circa 1960's & 1970's, though probably used into the 80's.
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Cheers for all that, really interesting and useful thanks to you both for posting.

Tony
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Old 23-07-13, 07:29 AM
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