The Buffs - Unapproved Pattern Collar.

[Keith Blakeman]

An interesting badge I recently won pretty cheaply for what it actually is and not a Kent Cyclists it was being advertised as!

Colin Churchill states, "A Gaunt pattern book shows the Officers pattern to be quite different, in silver only, the Horse is passant (Fig.79). A proposed other ranks bi-metal version was not adopted."

And that is what I have here, a manufactured sample rejected for wear. Some interesting communications on the card, what's puzzling me is that if I'm reading the book correctly this badge was to replace the upright horse badge (Fig.78) yet the line drawing on the card illustrates how the horse should but the passant stance emanating from the Pimlico Clothing Dept. I presume the regiment must have continued to wear this (upright) badge until replaced by the first dragon pattern in 1894.

[Sonofacqms]

A very interesting post, this could well be the reason why some badges cannot be positively identified as they were never adopted for wear.

Rob

[Toby Purcell]

Originally Posted by Keith Blakeman

An interesting badge I recently won pretty cheaply for what it actually is and not a Kent Cyclists it was being advertised as!

Colin Churchill states, "A Gaunt pattern book shows the Officers pattern to be quite different, in silver only, the Horse is passant (Fig.79). A proposed other ranks bi-metal version was not adopted."

And that is what I have here, a manufactured sample rejected for wear. Some interesting communications on the card, what's puzzling me is that if I'm reading the book correctly this badge was to replace the upright horse badge (Fig.78) yet the line drawing on the card illustrates how the horse should but the passant stance emanating from the Pimlico Clothing Dept. I presume the regiment must have continued to wear this (upright) badge until replaced by the first dragon pattern in 1894.

The incorrect badge fitted to the card appears to me to be the exact same as that used for the King's Liverpool Regiment as its WW1 era cap badge. I suspect that is why it was not adopted.

[Keith Blakeman]

Originally Posted by Toby Purcell

The incorrect badge fitted to the card appears to me to be the exact same as that used for the King's Liverpool Regiment as its WW1 era cap badge. I suspect that is why it was not adopted.

I think the King's were wearing a completely different badge in that era, a rose over a scroll. I'm sure Peter or Julian will confirm.

[Toby Purcell]

Originally Posted by Keith Blakeman

I think the King's were wearing a completely different badge in that era, a rose over a scroll. I'm sure Peter or Julian will confirm.

Those are collar badges yes and at one point the one regular battalion was wearing a rose and the other regular battalion the white horse. I have some photos somewhere showing this. I still believe that the horse shown in the OP, i.e. with rear legs close together, is the same pattern as used by one of the King's battalions at that time.