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Old 23-11-14, 10:16 PM
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Gentlemen. a few year go, I picked up this badge for The Yorkshire regiment (The Green Howards) which was sold by the dealer as a WW1 badge, possibly an officers, but sold as he had found it. This latter phrase is vague to say the least and could mean anything but as it was raining and it was cheap, I took a risk and bought it. I know that a brass version was issued during WW1 but I have only ever seen the white metal version.....your comments would be most welcome and I would appreciate any help you can offer. Is it a fake or is it just looking age worn (like my good self!)
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Old 23-11-14, 10:18 PM
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Hi,

Its a genuine officers service dress collar badge,

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Old 23-11-14, 10:21 PM
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Wow, that was quick! Much appreciated....Thank You!!
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Gentlemen. a few year go, I picked up this badge for The Yorkshire regiment (The Green Howards) which was sold by the dealer as a WW1 badge, possibly an officers, but sold as he had found it. This latter phrase is vague to say the least and could mean anything but as it was raining and it was cheap, I took a risk and bought it. I know that a brass version was issued during WW1 but I have only ever seen the white metal version.....your comments would be most welcome and I would appreciate any help you can offer. Is it a fake or is it just looking age worn (like my good self!)
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James,
just to confirm with the above that it is an OSD collar! Where did you get the info about there being a WW1 Brass version during WW1?

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Old 24-11-14, 07:58 AM
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Andy,
Many thanks for your reply. In answer to your query, ' British Army Cap Badges of the First World War' by Peter Doyle, p 72! I thought it odd, having only ever seen whitemetal versions but being a novice I am never sure about some reference guides.......so I come to the experts!!
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James,
A good book but a lot of errors and images of reproduction badges, especially in the Yeomanry section!! It is unlikely that there would have been a 1916 Gm (Brass) EI as the badge was already in a single metal and there would have been no "Economy" in producing one!

There were only 26 WW1 Regular Infantry badges that had an EI version produced!

http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...hp?albumid=400

I suspect Peter Doyle has just perpetuated an inaccuracy started by Gaylor?

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Old 24-11-14, 11:52 AM
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That is an absolutely excellent resource and one that I will find extremely useful.
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Hmmmmm........
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Andy,
I like the BP example and I'm sure it came from a reliable source! Not a fan of the Brass one though and suspect it was created as a result of Gaylor's list (post 1970s)?

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Andy,
I like the BP example and I'm sure it came from a reliable source!
Andy
Yeah - one of those dodgy ebay types

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Not a fan of the Brass one though and suspect it was created as a result of Gaylor's list (post 1970s)?
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I like it every bit as much as the t'other.

Economy badges came about due to a shortage of nickel did they not? - with an added benefit that badges of one metal type were easier/cheaper to manufacture. This would fit into that category.

I suppose you'll be telling me that there isn't an economy version of the West Yorkshire or West Riding as well ;o

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PS - it came from Bas.

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Andy,
You have fallen under the misconception that the "Economy" that the 1916 all Gilding-metal badges was aimed at achieving was to save metal !! Not so! The economy was pure and simply "Time", all Gm badges being quicker and simpler to produce! In fact most E.I. Badges are made from pretty thick sheet metal (unlike your GH badge).

You are also correct in that I'm also going to state that the W.Yorks did not have a 1916 all Gm version, "but why" I can hear the shout, it was in Bim so should have been! It wasn't, probably for the same reasons as the Notts & Derby, R.Dublin Fus and DWR, and that was the economy was not worth the effort where a simple base scroll was involved?

Trust me, when it comes to WW1 Regular Infantry E.I. Badges, I appreciate this may seem a cocky statement to make, however if there is not a genuine example shown in my album, then I am pretty certain and as certain as I can be that there probably was not one!

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I thought you had the BP badge from me?

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