Hussars?

[JerryBB]

Perhaps a bit rushed but I hope someone in this section will know the regiment to which this fine chap belonged?

http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...260#post286260

Thanks and I hope this was not a bit quick to start a 2nd thread on this. If it is can a mod please delete it.

[Rockape]

Looks like 3DG Jerry

Garry

[JerryBB]

Originally Posted by Rockape

Looks like 3DG Jerry

Garry

Garry,

Is that a certain or a probably?

[GriffMJ]

Originally Posted by Rockape

Looks like 3DG Jerry

Garry

Agreed....

Here is a 10thH from the same period...

[JerryBB]

They look very similar, apart from a slight difference in the shape of the POW badges and the shoulder chains.

thanks Griff and Garry.

[GriffMJ]

Jerry

Look at the different buttons...... the 10H has a metal POWFs arm badge and the 3DG has a wire/cloth one.

I have enhanced the pic and you can see the contrast shades in the cap.... the 10th H would have an all scarlet cap. I think the 3rd DG were Yellow Band/Army blue top with a yellow piping in the brim for this period (not sure)?

[JerryBB]

Originally Posted by GriffMJ

Jerry

Look at the different buttons...... the 10H has a metal POWFs arm badge and the 3DG has a wire/cloth one.

I have enhanced the pic and you can see the contrast shades in the cap.... the 10th H would have an all scarlet cap. I think the 3rd DG were Yellow Band/Army blue top with a yellow piping in the brim for this period (not sure)?

Hi Griff,

I could see the difference in material of the arm badges but with other arm badges they are often of both metal and fabric for the same badge in other cases, so I was not sure if that was on its own significant.

The buttons are not the same but I am not familiar enough with either regiment to see what difference that makes, are the hussars buttons plain?

Thanks as always for your help on such as this Griff, Diolch.

[GriffMJ]

Jerry

I would say that the arm badge in the photo is a bullion wire on yellow cloth.

3DG is the one I would put money on.

[Malcolm Davey]

Just to add the 3DG, 10th H, and the 12th RL all had the same cap badge with different scrolls and the collars and Arm badges were the same too but with different backings.
Malc

[JerryBB]

Originally Posted by Malcolm Davey

Just to add the 3DG, 10th H, and the 12th RL all had the same cap badge with different scrolls and the collars and Arm badges were the same too but with different backings.
Malc

No surprise then that I struggled to id the man in the pics.

Thanks for adding these Malcolm and to all who contributed.

[Rockape]

Jerry, The give-away for me was the embroidered arm badge on patrol blues. The 3DG wore these until amalgamation in the 1930's (See Linaker & Dine 1997 book on Cavalry Arm Badges). As Griff says above the 10RH at this time period wore a metal arm badge.

Garry

[JerryBB]

Originally Posted by Rockape

Jerry, The give-away for me was the embroidered arm badge on patrol blues. The 3DG wore these until amalgamation in the 1930's (See Linaker & Dine 1997 book on Cavalry Arm Badges). As Griff says above the 10RH at this time period wore a metal arm badge.

Garry

Thanks again Garry, I was happy to take your word for it and it is much appreciated you contributing as to me this is not an area I know much about. I just could not resist the image.

[Malcolm Davey]

Originally Posted by Rockape

Jerry, The give-away for me was the embroidered arm badge on patrol blues. The 3DG wore these until amalgamation in the 1930's (See Linaker & Dine 1997 book on Cavalry Arm Badges). As Griff says above the 10RH at this time period wore a metal arm badge.

Garry

Gary
In Robin Hodges book page 36 he states that the 3DG,10TH Hus and the 12th RL all wore the Prince of Wales's feathers as an arm badge and from 1881-1929 all three had the same issued badge.
Malc

[Rockape]

Hi Malc,

Do you think Robin was trying to generalise in his book?

On page 46 of the publication I mentioned in the earlier post, there is clear photographic evidence of the embroidered arm badge worn by 3DG in the period stated, despite a directive in 1867 that authorised the HM silver arm badge as a replacement. It seems the Dragoon Guards ignored this directive but the Hussars and Lancers adopted the white metal or HM silver badge.

Garry

[Malcolm Davey]

Originally Posted by Rockape

Hi Malc,

Do you think Robin was trying to generalise in his book?

On page 46 of the publication I mentioned in the earlier post, there is clear photographic evidence of the embroidered arm badge worn by 3DG in the period stated, despite a directive in 1867 that authorised the HM silver arm badge as a replacement. It seems the Dragoon Guards ignored this directive but the Hussars and Lancers adopted the white metal or HM silver badge.

Garry

Maybe , but page 96 of Lineker and Dines book shows a 12th RL Sgt in 1904 poss India wearing an embroidered arm badge .
So did all three ignore the directive who knows.😕