SAS Bimetal

[Loski]

Originally Posted by johanwiegman

That SD cap on Ebay is a joke, mate!

A bargepole case...

Cheers,

Johan

I defiantly didn't think it was right I have seen one discussed here on this board in the past that raised a few differing views.

[Mike B]

Always interesting to discuss such items
M

[Loski]

Absolutely Mike is that not part of the pleasure of our hobby

[54Bty]

The cap on ebay is for the 4/7 Royal Dragoon Guards even has the correct NSN.

Marc

[David Tremain]

I was going to say that about the 4th/7th DG, but Marc, you beat me to it!

David

[johno]

Originally Posted by Mike_2817

Re Post #6, Yes I do.

Add to the fact that it was standard dress for 21 SAS Officers as pointed out by Alan O, the SAS Coloured piping on No1 Dress and No1 Service Cap was the same colour as that for the Royal Army Education Corps, "Pompadour Blue" and as such only the colour needed ordering so was not really a 'special order' at all, as I am sure service hatters held them in stock for the RAEC, only the badge & buttons needed to be specified.

I would also like to see a picture of the Gilt cap buttons on a cap as well, they must exist.

Wouldn't the cap buttons have been be silver?
They were made in Silver and AA sizes Large Medium (example is with screw fix for epaulette) and small (cap?/mess/generals collar)

[54Bty]

In the lists of No.1 Dress introduced in 1952, the colour of 'Pompadour Blue' is not listed for use on No.1 Dress, for the RAEC it is Minerva Blue. And there is no mention of any Cap, Jacket or Trousers for 21 SAS. Possibly because the list is for the Regular Army.

And the SAS buttons are all silver (metal & aa).


Marc

[Alan O]

Pompador is an Essex Regt lilac colour due to their connection with the C18th French Madame of that name and gave them their regtl nickname.

[Mike_2817]

This is an extract from 'Mat Regs' dated April 2004 describing the SAS piping as 'Pompador Blue' which may be in error?

I have seen reference's to the RAEC as 'Cambridge Blue' (which it is not) as well as 'Minerva Blue' and another later reference to the SAS as 'Minerva Blue' as well, and I must admit I am now a little confused...

Given 21 SAS's links to the Artists Rifles and references to "Mars & Minerva" this could be a stronger link?

Has anyone got a copy of a pre 1992 Dress Regulation for Officers to reference?

[JerryBB]

Originally Posted by Alan O

21 SAS wore these caps throughout the 1950s and 60s. There was no special 'Coronation' badges as these are the standard No 1dress hats. Not sure why Osprey made such a statement. If you ever go the Joint Staff College there are a couple pictures of the 21 SAS HQ events which were commissioned by the regt at that time which show the Blues uniforms and peaked caps in use.

has anyone got a picture of the peaked cap with S&G badge in wear please?

[pommiegit]

I have some black and white photos of it being worn, will locate and upload..