WW2 NO 4 COMMANDO OFFICERS CRACKED SKULL SILVER CAP BADGE

[marievictor]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/124945667...cAAOSw9ZdhYzss

I saw this on Ebay and just assumed it wasn't going to be right.
I would appreciate comments
Legit or bad feelings?
Thanks a lot.

[Luke H]

It is not one of the Oryon miniatures made for the collector market?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/124070113884

[Mike B]

Not original - but please excuse me not disclosing why - fuel for fake makers.
Wrong in a whole lot of ways.
Mike

[marievictor]

Originally Posted by Mike B

Not original - but please excuse me not disclosing why - fuel for fake makers.
Wrong in a whole lot of ways.
Mike

Many thanks Mike.
I was not sure

[Mike B]

Originally Posted by marievictor

Many thanks Mike.
I was not sure

PM answered as requested as I know and trust you.

[gary1666]

I dont know why it is a fake ie. how much it differs from an original, but I think the lack of any patina in the eye sockets is a dead giveaway to the age

[Luke H]

As I said I believe it’s the Oryon badge which has been purposely ‘altered’ to deceive.

Note the same shape and irregularities to the inner borders of the IV. Also the nose is quite a distinct upside down heart shape.

The eBay badge has had the slider removed and by the looks of it the reverse scored with a drill to produce those vertical striations, presumably to conceal it’s true identity and remove all traces of the slider. Lastly some wire loops have been soldered on and it’s been aged up.

The reverse of an unaltered Oryon badge can be seen here…
https://www.militarycollectibles4u.n...e/#description

My tuppence worth as a non-SF collector.

[marievictor]

Originally Posted by Luke H

As I said I believe it’s the Oryon badge which has been purposely ‘altered’ to deceive.

Note the same shape and irregularities to the inner borders of the IV. Also the nose is quite a distinct upside down heart shape.

The eBay badge has had the slider removed and by the looks of it the reverse scored with a drill to produce those vertical striations, presumably to conceal it’s true identity and remove all traces of the slider. Lastly some wire loops have been soldered on and it’s been aged up.

The reverse of an unaltered Oryon badge can be seen here…
https://www.militarycollectibles4u.n...e/#description

My tuppence worth as a non-SF collector.

Many thanks for your help. You are right

[Belly]

Not the first one of these fakes to hit the market

[Belly]

and this one. Note genuine title to suck you in

[Mike B]

Shockers Belly. Thanks for sharing.

[NEMO]

I was once fortunate to handle an original the collector got it from his father who was the gardener of the 4 Commando Officer there was also a
Desk top Silver cigarette box with the same badge afixed to the lid.

[Mike B]

Originally Posted by NEMO

I was once fortunate to handle an original the collector got it from his father who was the gardener of the 4 Commando Officer there was also a
Desk top Silver cigarette box with the same badge afixed to the lid.

Hello Michael
I believe the cigarette box and badge featured in a Military Historical Society article many years ago. From memory, it was treasured by the daughter of the first CO of the unit. A lovely attributed item.
Regards
Mike

[fwhittle]

The badge has just been relisted on E Bay !!

[Mike B]

Originally Posted by fwhittle

The badge has just been relisted on E Bay !!

Probably part of a job lot unfortunately.