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[manchesters]

We should really work out the Regiment first to narrow it down.

Clearly a Rifle Regiment, but what is the shoulder title - KRR?

regards

[leigh kitchen]

That looks like it KRR.

[manchesters]

I know they had a lot of Bn.'s but does that help you any in narrowing it down?

regards

[leigh kitchen]

I'll sit and run through the battalions and brigades / divisions & hope for inspiration.

[Mike Jackson]

Originally Posted by Mike Jackson

Jon,
Have you discounted the design and description in John Waring's JW2/D 174? Mike

For those who don't have John Waring's amazing pamphlets, the description of JW2/D174 reads "13 Bn KRR. Blue 2" square with company arc above _ A Coy red, B Coy blue, c Coy violet, D Coy dark green.
Mike

[leigh kitchen]

Thanks button.

[Mike Jackson]

Originally Posted by Mike Jackson

Not to mention the myriad and in some cases fascinating, unit signs painted on vehicles etc. I'll post a few examples later. Mike

Herewith. The quality of the artwork is remarkable - as is the obscurity of many of the designs. Mike
MAC_Vehicle Signs_WW1.01.jpg

[Postwarden]

Interesting signs. The two shown here may be related to that of the 13th shown.

Jon

[High Wood]

Another one that has never been identified in the form of a ruffled circle worn on each sleeve with possibly a coloured centre. The same man appears in the other photograph without the circles but wearing the hunting horn buttons of a rifle battalion. The two soldiers at the back of the group have cap badges that may be 8th or 17th battalion, London Regiment.
The photograph was taken by the Coles Royal Studios which had branches in City Road, E.C., High Street, Kingsland, High Street, Peckham S.E., High Road, Kilburn and High Road, Ilford so there is a definite London connection.

The group photograph was taken in France.

[leigh kitchen]

1/25 London in India, WWI, possibly a link here re. the helmet flash & the arm badge in your photo.
Presumably the touched appearance of the arm badge is due to wear, tear & shrinkage?

[High Wood]

Originally Posted by leigh kitchen

1/25 London in India, WWI, possibly a link here re. the helmet flash & the arm badge in your photo.
Presumably the touched appearance of the arm badge is due to wear, tear & shrinkage?

It certainly looks similar but would a cyclist battalion have worn rifle buttons? He is definitely in France in the group photograph albeit without the circular badges.

[leigh kitchen]

3/25 London became a TF battalion of the Rifle Brigade in 1916 and joined 10th Reserve Bde.
He may very well not be 25 London, the helmet flash and arm badge may not have any link.

Could the "circle" be a 6th Division badge?

[leigh kitchen]

In one of Mike Chappells books (British Battle Badges, Men at Arms) is an illustration of a Seaforths stretcher bearer wearing a large white letter "C" on the upper sleeve,.
It's rouched, of similar lumpy appearance to the "O" - could both be formed simply by curving a straight length of tape and tacking on to the sleeve?
Chappell states that the "C" was used as an identifier on 1st July 1916 and that other units used such symbols. Though it seems very unlikely, it did occur to me that the "O" may be such an identifier.
Wounded, repatriated to the UK, recovered, kept the badge on?
Doesn't seem likely.
Just thinking out loud again.

[Drew]

Could the last photo be 2/10th London Rgt, WW1? I know he has Rifle buttons and possible metal KRR shoulder titles, but at the stage of the war where patches seemed to be at their most popular, there were all sorts of drafts being sent to and from different places. For example, I have seen many photos from that time of men in one unit but still sporting cap badges and other insignia of their previous Regiment.

Chris

INS 9123 HQ Company- emerald green curved bar
(or one of the other company colours).
INS 9126 Green square

[BROOKIES]

Originally Posted by High Wood

It certainly looks similar but would a cyclist battalion have worn rifle buttons? He is definitely in France in the group photograph albeit without the circular badges.

Evening.

7th Welsh wore rifle buttons as per photo.

Jonathan

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