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Old 30-07-09, 02:48 PM
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If anyone knows the whereabouts of one of these - in (almost) any condition, I'm very keen to acquire one !
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Julian,keep your eyes peeled and your ears open.Mine cost me a small fortune at the time from somebody who was selling his collection.I did miss out on a genuine "Dorsetshire" that he had , ive not seen one of either for a very long time.
Alan,in K+K im sure the LUOTC badge shown is the larger version and the text quoted refers to that rather than the smaller "beret" badge.When i originally obtained it,i believed it to a large "Kings" but the research that i did lead to LUOTC.
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Old 30-07-09, 06:58 PM
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It is just being a lugged cap badge rather than a slidered one would put it into a very small minority of badges. Once you take out the lugged scottish ones and the very small ones whose design would not support a slider then it becomes a even smaller group.
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It is a very rare item. The one in my collection is the only one I have ever come across.

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Old 31-07-09, 10:29 PM
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It is a very rare item. The one in my collection is the only one I have ever come across.

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Including yours P.B i know of 3.
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Hi Guys,

If we are still talking about the clutch fitting cap badge then I'm a bit surprised.

Blade fittings were probably by Danbury Mint of the USA but while clutch fittings are found on some collar badges and NZ and Australian cap badges made by Gaunt for them the British Army while enquiring about clutch fittings did reject them on cost and as such, as far as I know no cap badges were made for the British Army with clutch fittings.

I don't have the notes with me (currently at Singapore airport using up some hours) but this info is found in the main anodised file in the National Archives.

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Just to go back to Mike H`s comment on Kipling and King Vol 2 ( No 2464 ) Liverpool University OTC, the badge shown is the bi metal post 1926 ( large ) version and the text merely adds..."also anodised"

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K&K were wrong on both possible counts. Their ilustration no 2464 is of the 1926 'Firmin type' (long tail, straight hind legs) - this was NOT what was used as the basis for the 1950 "beret" (actually sealed for the 'cap') badge - OR therefore it's AA version (despite it's appearance as such in a well known book on AA badges. There are two types of the "small" King's AA badge; one was used by the 5th Bn in the early 1960s, the second was sealed in 1971 for the LUOTC.)
NOR was it the basis of the large LUOTC AA badge - that was based on the 1926 'Gaunt type' (short tail, crooked hind legs).

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