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View Poll Results: Anodised Aluminium - The 'No Bull' Cap Badge of the British Army | |||
Yes - I would like to express probable intent to purchase. | 66 | 58.93% | |
Maybe - I would like to express possible intent to purchase. | 30 | 26.79% | |
No - Not my area of collecting interest. | 16 | 14.29% | |
Voters: 112. You may not vote on this poll |
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It is just enamel on bog standard 'improved metal' the same as other modern badges. It is certainly not silver or officer quality gilt. I am not sure what the proper metalugical title is.
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10 out of 10, go to the top of the class, that's exactly what it looks like, particularly when compared to others, such as the Scottish Yeomanry badge. I'm going to drop the seller a line to see how he reacts, I think he was out of order saying it was silver, gilt and enamel !! Dave. PS, Chris, I apologise for hijacking your ' Poll ' page but you can see why I think it has been anodised, I hope ??? DC. Last edited by davec2; 07-06-10 at 04:42 PM. Reason: PS |
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not the one of the most well made badges, but it is absolutely correct! Better described as "Silvered, gilt and enamelled".. Despite costing £20+ that is probably about right!! When you bear in mind the fact that the King's Division bands probably only number about 20-30 musicians at any one time it is a scare item! The bands were formed in 1994 so they've been in circulation quite a while.. Andy |
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Cheers Andy,
Appreciate the confirmation, it's going in my album after all !! I'll get off now and leave this page for Chris's Poll, sorry mate ! Dave. |
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King's Division Band
Dave, before you go, here is an unused example with the matching collar badges for comparison:
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Hello g_g_a,
I-dent-ical and aren't yours a lovely set, so now I've got to start collecting collars too ?? I'm sure that I've recently told someone I thought bandsmen didn't wear collars, or am I crossing wires again ?? Thanks for showing them, appreciated and of course, on top of Andy's confirmation, I feel a lot better !! Dave. |
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Late here due to time differences. As stated - looks like a 'new metal' item to me. Regards Chris |
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Hi,
I don't know where you are with your book project but you may wish to consider printing in China. I have done a number of books on militaria (http://www.servicepub.com) and find their work to be of quality and affordable. I use MCRL as an agent (http://www.mcrlprinting.com/). Although located in Canada I know that they did the work for a US collector and an Australian collector who each authored books on sun helmets and Wolseleys. Well worth getting a quote. Clive
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I will certainly look into this - much appreciated. Currently working of photos which is turning out to be a lot harder and longer to do than was anticipated but I have some good tutoring and help in the matter from a forum member. Awaiting some new illumination equipment to test out and hopefully off again. Reflection of both external colour and form is a problem with these badges due to their high reflective finish and one that I would like to eradicate. I have one tentative quote for printing but more are always welcome but still not absolutely sure of the final page count yet. One of the chapters will hopefully have an image at 1.5 times actual size of all badges officially authorised for issue. I am musing of also placing a reverse shot of the badge with the obverse. Of course not all reverse sides of badges are the same (and neither are the obverse sides) but it may be of interest to collectors to see what at least one reverse or punch die created for at least some badges for a particular unit. I don't know of any other British Army cap badge books that show the reverse sides of badges so this may well be a first too. This of course will increase the number of printed pages and unfortunately cost. Regards Chris |
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I must have spent a king's ransom on photos, photographers, experiments, etc.., in the days before digital cameras. Now I think that I have it perfected. I take all photos outdoors, on an overcast day. I mount badges on a grey backboard (available from art supplies stores) and shoot. The grey fools the camera as it typically is looking for a balanced background which you wont get with a white backing. No problem with reflection or glare provided you are not in sunlight.
Good luck, Clive
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Thanks Servicepub,
Here is a link to some test images I have been working on. Some are OK but others still need a lot of work to get right: http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...ad.php?t=10561 Tried filming outside but the badges ended up an odd shade of green and black due to them reflecting the local vegetation, buildings etc. Hence the use now of interior lighting to set a standard operating environment for all images taken. I'm sure it will all be worked out for publication though. re: your name on the forum - do you deal in service publications and if so do you have the 1960 CCN? Regards Chris |
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Let your musings guide you to another first! With the attention to detail you are achieving in your book it will be unavoidable to show at least some relevant reverse sides, i.e. different makers dies, sliders and construction etc. Doubtlesly you will have that covered, but why not go the extra mile and show them all, considering the amount of interest in the reverse of badges? At least you won't regret not showing them once the book is out. Don't let the additional workload be a put-off, when you have the photographic process properly sorted, and I know you are nearly there, the extra work will be quite managable. Reverse images in general will be easier to photograph then the obverse sides. It would highly surprise me if the additional cost will be of influence to the poll results here. Rgds, fougasse1940. |
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I have pictures of every different slider (so far found) at maker level and lugs too. Some sliders seemed to be common to one or more maker but such an occurrence seems rare and probably due to acquisitions by parent companies where the slider was then standardised. Every maker mark (again, all that I can find) is also recorded both found stamped on the slider or cast to the body. One mark is stamped to the body too just for good measure - London Badge and Button Company on an Irish Guards example. However, all have to be retaken to get them up to standard. More will come to light too as time goes on but there should be a good start to go on with. Yes, it might be interesting to provide the reverse sides of the badges to be shown in the "Ducks In A Row..." chapter - these images do pair up nicely. Good job its winter here... Regards Chris |
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http://www.servicepub.com
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Don't forget the combination of stamped and cast maker marks. Rgds, fougasse1940. |
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