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Old 16-01-19, 07:39 PM
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This one was the same.
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Old 16-01-19, 07:46 PM
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I still do as attached. I must have sold the one on the left and kept this one.
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Old 16-01-19, 07:53 PM
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Okay, many thanks Alan, so reading your link, the example you sold, was it converted to a slider or originally made with one?
I own Alan’s badge now Frank. It’s not converted, slider was the original fitting.
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Old 18-01-19, 10:13 AM
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Yes, you encounter this sort of thing an awful lot in the case of Victorian badges where the pattern remained the same into King Edwards day, sometimes the lugs were removed completely, but, on occasion, they were simply cut as close as possible to the badge, in particular, in the case of those applied to the reverse of deep die struck scrolls.

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I had, or may still have somewhere an example with braize applied in preparation for loops but with a slider, or alternatively the loops removed. Datable pretty close to 1906 I'd have thought as the pattern changed soon after.
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Old 19-01-19, 11:06 AM
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A very pleasing badge, I would have kept that too.

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I still do as attached. I must have sold the one on the left and kept this one.
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Old 19-01-19, 01:05 PM
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Default 2D Brodrick

Hello Frank

As you will see if you read Post #14 I did feel I'd 'shot myself in the foot' using that image as an example of a 2D Brodrick cap in wear, and having research the matter further I too think its more likely to be a Mounted Infantry man.
Never the less there are quite a number of 2D photo's in circulation showing individuals wearing Brodricks. There is a very good one in Peter Seaman's Book - Cavalry Arm Badges.

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Old 19-01-19, 01:28 PM
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Default Cavalry Regt's. Brodrick Caps

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Since the start of this thread I have kept an eye out for images of Brodrick caps in wear by the Line Cavalry, and I have discovered photographic evidence that the following wore them, this is the full list which also confirms what other members have already posted:

1DG, 2DG, 7DG, 1RD, 2D, 6D, 8H, 11H, 12L, 13H, 15H, 17L & 21L.

I'm sure more images will turn up for other Regiments as time passes, and I'd suggested that the majority of Cavalry Regt's wore them, be it only for a short time. However, the 14H could be one exception that might have avoided wear.

I'd be interested to hear of any other evidence found.

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Old 20-01-19, 08:43 AM
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I think that because the Cavalry wore so many different forms of headdress during the short period concerned, it certainly makes this matter far more complicated, with Brodrick, Field Service Cap, Slouch Hat "Pill Box" and Service Dress Caps and so on, all being worn during such a very short period of time, depending upon the truly bewildering order of dress concerned.

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Old 20-01-19, 11:52 PM
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Not mine and I only have this cropped version of the full PC.
Jerry, did you notice that the cap is quartered as per a Czapka? I had not ever noticed it before and I can’t recall it being mentioned in the famous, “cut of the cloth” series by the Fosten brothers?
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Old 21-01-19, 08:09 AM
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Perfectly normal, the subsequent forage cap was also quartered for Lancers.

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Old 26-01-19, 12:43 AM
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I would expect the Broderick to be reviled. A most un-British looking cap and that 17L trooper looks quite teutonic without close examination.
At least they had the British sense to wear it cocked in most instances

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Old 28-01-19, 09:00 AM
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Broderick?

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I would expect the Broderick to be reviled. A most un-British looking cap and that 17L trooper looks quite teutonic without close examination.
At least they had the British sense to wear it cocked in most instances

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Old 31-01-19, 08:51 AM
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Three differing forage caps in use by the 21st Lancers at the same point in time, brodrick, pill box and peaked.
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Old 31-01-19, 10:17 AM
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Great photos. The peaked cap was worn by officers and WOs, (and bandsmen), for a number of years before all ranks adopted it in 1905.
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Old 07-04-19, 07:06 AM
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Horse deaths were so great in SA that the use of specific colour of horses was not possible. The volume of horses sent to the Boer War was massive so they rode what they could get.
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