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Old 23-12-18, 03:57 PM
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There you go, Iain, the standard Edwardian cap badge in white metal for comparison.


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I wasn't aware of their existence Frank

Was that for the Natal Rebellion?
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Old 23-12-18, 04:40 PM
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Hi Frank,

yes the Volunteer period; you also have a blackened version? I haven't seen one before.
The RSM anodised is a similar size and one of these larger badges were incorrectly used as a sample, hence the Union and Imperial flags

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Old 23-12-18, 05:12 PM
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Hello Iain,
Both are absolutely identical, other than the badge was finished in bronze, you should note that the collars and shoulder titles were also produced the same, as I said before, I don't know why.
I suppose, it remains possible that members of the regiment had seen British officers of the Imperial Garrison, strutting around like pheasants, in their handsome new Service Dress and then simply thought, we can do that.
It would certainly account for their relative scarcity.
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Old 23-12-18, 05:18 PM
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Very, interesting Frank, thanks for sharing, I can't comment as I haven't seen one before
except, another one I need for the collection....

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Old 23-12-18, 05:28 PM
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Well, to be quite honest, I think that I have only come across two others, notwithstanding, I am simply trying to account just why that should be, it is worth pointing out that officers of the various Transvaal Volunteer Force wore their badges as the rest of their particular regiment, but, they were produced, here, from the same dies, so whilst die struck, they were usually in silver and certainly not always hall marked, the give away was the silver wire used the fashion the loops, rather than the copper used for the rank and files.

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Old 24-12-18, 05:07 PM
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Thanks for the explanation, still something to look out for

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Well, to be quite honest, I think that I have only come across two others, notwithstanding, I am simply trying to account just why that should be, it is worth pointing out that officers of the various Transvaal Volunteer Force wore their badges as the rest of their particular regiment, but, they were produced, here, from the same dies, so whilst die struck, they were usually in silver and certainly not always hall marked, the give away was the silver wire used the fashion the loops, rather than the copper used for the rank and files.

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Old 25-12-18, 07:39 AM
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Thought I'd show this one, it is a pin-back badge and I think it is silver, though not 100% sure. It is quite a large badge.
I also have one of the bronze finish ones on lugs.
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and a couple more additions, not as rare as the St Blaize Rifles but rare all the same!

The large anodised badge worn by RSMs, Officers and Bandsmen and the BiM collars

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Those were very limited, well done.

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Old 28-12-18, 03:05 AM
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Hi Alex,

for size which one in Owen's does it compare to?

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Thought I'd show this one, it is a pin-back badge and I think it is silver, though not 100% sure. It is quite a large badge.
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Thanks Brian, I'm very pleased

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for size which one in Owen's does it compare to?

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Hi Iain
I think it is 627.
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Old 28-12-18, 05:10 PM
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627 is the WWII size cap / helmet badge with Imperial Light Horse on the scroll whereas the slightly smaller 618 has the motto,

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I think it is 627.
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Very nice Iain, I think it was a great shame when officers ended up with only bi metal cap and collar badge to wear, they used to be proper solid die cast silver and rich mercurial fire gilt, on occasion, handed down within the regiment to be worn by a lucky few into the second world war.


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The large anodised badge worn by RSMs, Officers and Bandsmen and the BiM collars

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Old 02-01-19, 09:37 AM
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Thanks Frank; yes, changing times, not the money anymore and of course the skill required to make these items also costs so much more.
You've also got me thinking that when an Officer led his men, as in WWI and was cut down, how many artefacts were lost in the mud of Flanders

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