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Old 20-11-16, 12:17 PM
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Another great album Dean. One point that I have wondered about was the scarcity of cavalry shoulder titles. I've been after a 2D titles for a while and only seen a couple. In terms of numbers produced does anyone know how say a cavalry (squadron?) compares to an infantry battalion specific title or even regiment? I realise this maybe very unit dependant and generalisations may be difficult. Also on the same vein are cavalry units generally comparable in terms of numbers who served over the same period, say WW1?

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Old 20-11-16, 12:53 PM
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Ok chaps - I have a 10H shoulder title however the oracle of shoulder title books Westlake's has a note that the regiment favoured XRH and a chap I correspond with suggested to me that in pics he had seen the XRH on Great War pics a fact I shall check up on. Sorry on the 6D Keith but we have been doing badly at cricket lately! I simply asked if any member had one and bam that was that thanks to Tony.



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Thanks for that info Dean, something I wasn't aware of. It probably explains why the 10H is so rare.
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Another great album Dean. One point that I have wondered about was the scarcity of cavalry shoulder titles. I've been after a 2D titles for a while and only seen a couple. In terms of numbers produced does anyone know how say a cavalry (squadron?) compares to an infantry battalion specific title or even regiment? I realise this maybe very unit dependant and generalisations may be difficult. Also on the same vein are cavalry units generally comparable in terms of numbers who served over the same period, say WW1?

Bryan
Cavalry Squadrons/Regiments were much less in number that an Infantry Company/Battalion.
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Old 21-11-16, 04:38 PM
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Nearly there on a representative collection of WW1 British cavalry badges and shoulder titles. One title to go and then will pop them in an album with each badge and title shown separately as well.

Cheers Dean
Great card Dean.... Don't forget that KDG changed their badge in 1915 to the Star and Garter example. You would need to put both KDG badges on your card for it to be truly representative... Good Skills though....
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Old 21-11-16, 06:51 PM
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Thanks CB I had thought to do that but it meant repeating the shoulder title and so I thought I would put a stop at 1914 and display the changes in a seperate display to cover the post war amalgamations. It gave me a wobble with two LG titles as it is. Wondered if I should show an ORs and an Officers 1st or 2nd Life Gusrds badges with OR larger title alongside a smaller Officers LG shoulder title.

What a hobby, cheers Dean
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Old 21-11-16, 07:22 PM
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Dean, having looked again, I have concerns with that 7th Dragoon Guards looks like the 'skinny' type copy, also the 6th Inniskilling Dragoons, I would prefer voided windows in the two towers and the number of brick courses above the central window looks wrong, just my opinion of course. Have a look here. http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...ad.php?t=48990
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Old 22-11-16, 12:03 PM
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Thanks Tony - shall make a detailed review of the suspect ones at the weekend, cheers Dean.
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Old 22-11-16, 01:15 PM
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Dean, the 1st Life Guards and the 2nd Life Guards wore the numbers 1 or 2 above the LG on their respective shoulder titles.
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Old 22-11-16, 01:35 PM
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I am French and live in Artois.
I am very happy to see so many specialists on this forum !! Maybe it will be soon a microscope before buying a badge !!
I have been collecting for over 25 years .... and I certainly have copies in my collections. But for me it is more the symbol that represents every object that matters to me. It is enough to see them engraved on the stelae of the countless military cemeteries of the comonwealth in my region.

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PS: by the way, is this attached is it good? He comes from the Somme not far from here.
It looks genuine to me J-Paul. The 'Household Battalion' I think, formed from dismounted Household cavalrymen (Life Guards and Royal Horse Guards).
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Hello Hoot- do you know if 1LG and 2LG S/Ts were worn through The Great War? Have you seen pictures or documentation to confirm? I wonder if such use stopped early in the war and that then both just used LG. Regards, Paul.

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Old 22-11-16, 06:37 PM
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Hello Hoot- do you know if 1LG and 2LG S/Ts were worn through The Great War? Have you seen pictures or documentation to confirm? I wonder if such use stopped early in the war and that then both just used LG. Regards, Paul.
Paul, as far as I am aware, the complete titles were worn throughout the war. In "British Army Cap Badges Of The First World War" by Peter Doyle and Chris Foster, on page 38, there is a photo of three cavalrymen, they are wearing the 1916 pattern soft caps and the 2LG man's shoulder titles can be clearly seen.
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Thanks CB I had thought to do that but it meant repeating the shoulder title and so I thought I would put a stop at 1914 and display the changes in a seperate display to cover the post war amalgamations. It gave me a wobble with two LG titles as it is. Wondered if I should show an ORs and an Officers 1st or 2nd Life Gusrds badges with OR larger title alongside a smaller Officers LG shoulder title.

What a hobby, cheers Dean
Well, its worth bearing in mind that KDG only arrived in France in 1915 and buggered off back to India in 1917. By the time they got anywhere near the front the vast majority would have been wearing the Star and Garter badge. I say vast majority as there seemed to be some delay in issuing the new badge to all the troops... So if your card is supposed to be representative of WWI I would say the S&G would be the one... but I'm anal about these things, so ignore me if you want lol!
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Old 22-11-16, 09:32 PM
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Thanks Hoot. I had not noticed the type of cap in use in that picture. My grandfather was 2LG in 1918 and the family picture I have of him looks to show a one part ST-could be possibly that the light only caught on one part of it. I have never seen a joined 1LG or 2LG so I take it they were worn in two parts. I would be happy to see any pictures showing 1LG or 2LG STs. Regards, Paul.
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Thanks Hoot. I had not noticed the type of cap in use in that picture. My grandfather was 2LG in 1918 and the family picture I have of him looks to show a one part ST-could be possibly that the light only caught on one part of it. I have never seen a joined 1LG or 2LG so I take it they were worn in two parts. I would be happy to see any pictures showing 1LG or 2LG STs. Regards, Paul.
I've never seen joined ones either and in all photos I have seen, not that I've seen that many, they have always been two-part by the looks of them.
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Old 23-11-16, 08:41 AM
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This gets more interesting by the day. You would think by now we would have established what cap badge and shoulder titles were worn by regular infantry, cavalry and yeomanry but we still have gaps in knowledge and photographic eveidence is a great tool to assist. I am putting my albums together for that very purpose, cheers Dean - off to look for a 1 and 2 now!
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