British & Commonwealth Military Badge Forum

Recent Books by Forum Members

   

Go Back   British & Commonwealth Military Badge Forum > British Military Insignia > Other Army Departments and Corps Badges

 Other Pages: Galleries, Links etc.
Glossary  Books by Forum Members     Canadian Pre 1914    CEF    CEF Badge Inscriptions   Canadian post 1920     Canadian post 1953     British Cavalry Badges     Makers' Marks    Pipers' Badges  Canadian Cloth Titles  Books  SEARCH
 
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-04-21, 07:08 PM
dubaiguy's Avatar
dubaiguy dubaiguy is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Scotland
Posts: 967
Default Officer's ASC 1901-11 badge with various tangs, loops etc

I thought it might be of interest to show the variety of different fittings on the officer's Army Service Corps 1901-11 forage cap badge. This is the one illustrated in Kipling & King as KK 988.

Top left: gilt and silver plate with two tang or blade fittings

Top right: Another version but with an unusual arrangement of a single tang and a single loop fitting, positioned N&S. The gilt and silver plate is totally absent, so it has either completely worn off or the badge was made in bi-metal

Bottom left: OSD version with two tang fittings

Bottom right: Another OSD version, but on two loops. Probably a full size collar

Unfortunately, I haven't yet found the OR's version.
Mark
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_2092.jpg (50.5 KB, 52 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_2096.jpg (36.3 KB, 56 views)

Last edited by dubaiguy; 02-04-21 at 07:23 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-04-21, 07:47 PM
Alan O's Avatar
Alan O Alan O is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 12,730
Default

I suspect the one lug and tang is for the Torin style cap where the badge sat low on the cap.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-04-21, 09:36 PM
tonyb's Avatar
tonyb tonyb is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Huytonshire
Posts: 3,266
Default

Great collection you show there, very nice.
Tony
__________________
For Christopher night night son.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-04-21, 10:06 PM
badgecollector's Avatar
badgecollector badgecollector is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 4,239
Default

thanks
awesome badges
bc
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-04-21, 10:42 PM
grenadierguardsman's Avatar
grenadierguardsman grenadierguardsman is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 3,901
Default

Nice badges.
Andy
__________________
Leave to carry on Sir please.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-04-21, 07:56 AM
dubaiguy's Avatar
dubaiguy dubaiguy is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Scotland
Posts: 967
Default

Thanks Gents. Alan that's an interesting thought re the tang and loop arrangement. I must admit I'm not at all clear when the Torin cap was worn or even where the word drives from. I'm presuming possibly late 19th / early 20th century usage, which could fit. I'm therefore going to go along with your thoughts and categorise it in my badge notes as a possible Torin badge.
Thanks for the help.
Mark
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-04-21, 09:48 AM
mike_vee's Avatar
mike_vee mike_vee is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Uxbridge
Posts: 4,892
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dubaiguy View Post
I must admit I'm not at all clear when the Torin cap was worn or even where the word drives from.
Could there be a Scottish connection ?

A kid I went to school with , in Edinburgh , was called Torin and he claimed the name was derived from the Gaelic term for a Chief.

Consider the names of other bonnets/caps :

Kilmarnock (Hummel)

Glengarry

Balmoral

Tam O'Shanter

Just a guess but worth thinking about.


.
__________________
British Legion/Royal British Legion , Poppy/Remembrance/Commemorative.

Poppy and British Legion Wanted
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-04-21, 10:18 AM
leigh kitchen's Avatar
leigh kitchen leigh kitchen is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 9,034
Default

Memory may be failing me, but was'nt the cap named after a Captain Torin?
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 03-04-21, 10:52 AM
mike_vee's Avatar
mike_vee mike_vee is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Uxbridge
Posts: 4,892
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by leigh kitchen View Post
Memory may be failing me, but was'nt the cap named after a Captain Torin?
You are possibly right , found this :

"It was often called the “Torin” cap (named after the Irish officer who supposedly designed the British Army version)."


.
__________________
British Legion/Royal British Legion , Poppy/Remembrance/Commemorative.

Poppy and British Legion Wanted
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

mhs link

All times are GMT. The time now is 08:27 PM.


Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.