FiFe & Forfar Yeomanry c1914

[2747andy]

Griff,
I do not like the badge you show in post #121, (Square to the front sheild, no flowers and the horses coat does not cut into the tail!) and to be honest it looks like a repro to me! No way is it Boer war as it would not have a slider as they were introduced in 1903/06. Would they not have worn the Imp Yeo pattern badge upto 1908 anyway?

Andy

[2747andy]

Griff,
as promised here are the beret badge (c.1947) and the anodised (??) badge I have. I've shown the beret badge alongside another unusual badge! It is whitemetal coated brass (made this way and not a brass badge that has been plated later). I'm happy that it is genuine. The beret badge has lost the end of the slider, but is endorsed by "LONDON" of the J.R. Gaunt London "Good Makers Mark!". The Ano is one of the spurious unmarked slidered badges, but fills a gap!

Andy

[GriffMJ]

Andy

That A/A badge is a very similar pattern to the one I show? But less well defined....

[Alan O]

My latest purchase. All brass and going into the yeomanry album and not Black Watch economy! Knight's helmet plume is missing but still a good find.

[Advsmt]

Hi, I realise this thread has been dormant for a while but I thought I would add a bit. The Arbroath Honour Roll of WW1 - available online, has a picture of Pte. Alexander Symon, stating that he joined the 14th in Oct 1916, his first unit. He died in action. He is clearly wearing a standard BW badge and not the F&FY thane.

Bryan

[GriffMJ]

Bryan

It was that or the Tam & the hackle..... I have seen the officers in photos wearing the Thane collars though.

Have you got a link for the Alexander Symon image?

[Rockape]

Bryan,

The Arbroath soldier, 345622 Private Symon. A, is wearing a Glengarry and as Bryan rightly says, he is clearly not wearing a Thane badge.

http://lib.militaryarchive.co.uk/lib...l/page156.html

If you look through the photographs of the 14th (F&FY Bn), Royal Highlanders from Project Gutenberg, you will no doubt get a sense that all sorts of headdress badges including the 'Thane', Pith helmets with flashes, ToS/Hackle are being worn. This again is another example of Yeomanry units doing their 'own thing'. The 14th was demobilised from November 1918 to June 1919. A photograph of the last few, a cadre arriving at Kirkaldy shows the ORs wearing TOS/Hackle but the officer is wearing something different (Page 164) but I cannot make-out what the badge is.

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/18468...h.htm#Page_164

We cannot rule out that the brass badge wasn't worn given the evidence so far. I suspect that the badge may have been ordered by the battalion but never officially worn due to The Royal Highlanders pressure to wear their badge.

[GriffMJ]

To date ...still no 14th Btn photo with the Thane

[fearnaught]

Hi, fascinating thread. Made me look at my badges, and hey ho more queries. I also have a plated badge like Andy's but mine looks to have been all plated. The slider and badge are both plated together, but more of that later. I put a white metal one of the same striking next to it, the plated version seems to be a much crisper strike, It was my collars that interested me more. One set are all brass, not being an expert on Fife and Forfar when were these worn and are they related to the all brass cap badge? Note how badly finished they are . The left facing one has not been filed along the knights plume and horses rump, also the swords seem more Hobbit like. The bronze are there just to show, the white metal have three types of lugs, D shaped, normal and the infamous electrical lugs, has anyone come up with a time frame for these lugs? Coming back to the plated cap badge, could they have been made originally in brass in 1908 rejected and plated then produced in white metal hence forth, just an idea as I say I know nothing about pre armoured badges, best wishes Mike

[GriffMJ]

Two of my own....

[GriffMJ]

Nice image.... of what must be the 14th Btn Fife & Forfar Yeo.

[Alan O]

They have horse mounted puttees wound from the bottom. Why 14th Bn?

[GriffMJ]

Originally Posted by Alan O

They have horse mounted puttees wound from the bottom. Why 14th Bn?

Exactly.... but with Infantry belt and trousers. No spurs either....

Thane on cap & collar....who else can they be?

[grey_green_acorn]

Originally Posted by Alan O

They have horse mounted puttees wound from the bottom. Why 14th Bn?

I thought that mounted troops wound their puttees from the top down tied off at the ankle?

Tim

[Advsmt]

Interesting, is the uniform not pre-1916? Pleated breast pockets and rifle shoulder padding.

Bryan