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Old 09-03-23, 09:25 AM
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This Liverpool Scottish I have, am pretty sure is a 100% fake! But have seen loads of them in silver going for silly prices. It's marked LBBC, there's some weight in it also. So basically what am asking is, is this legit or a dud? Thanks
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Old 09-03-23, 05:03 PM
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Is that not one of the ones that were brought back in for 10 minutes and then binned ?
LBBC would be London Badge and Button Co . That would fit with the time frame. I dont know what the New Metal badge book says about it. If not Peter B maybe able to offer you advice on it.
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The 1998 last pattern version is in all silver colour finish 'new metal'. Extract from 'New Metal' by Chris Marsh:
Liverpool Scottish - Insignia, Organizational. Cap. All Ranks. V Company (The Liverpool Scottish) 5th/8th Kings. Nickel silver. Bright nickel plate. NSN 8455-99-869-2575 on Forbes tartan backing. This is the final and fourth badge manufactured in September 1998 and is the only item on the official inventory pattern No 28136. This badge was made of nickel silver with a bright nickel plate and has a more shiny appearance to the previously used pieces. It was not maker marked but has the more usual three lugs. It was deleted from the inventory on 29th August 2017. [NMI15]

Here is my example in my album https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...ctureid=142679
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Can't find my copy/notes but I believe this was discussed in an issue of crown imperial
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My example, not maker marked and was found as issued, wrapped in white tissue paper in an army surplus store that used to be in Brentwood, Essex. It would appear to be the example as quoted by Tim above . . .
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Yes that is the last issue one.
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Some good info and very helpful! Thank you all

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Old 11-03-23, 09:13 PM
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Is that not one of the ones that were brought back in for 10 minutes and then binned ?
LBBC would be London Badge and Button Co . That would fit with the time frame. I dont know what the New Metal badge book says about it. If not Peter B maybe able to offer you advice on it.
So, is what your saying is that it is a badge made a by a well known manufacturer? Was it for the collectors market?
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Old 11-03-23, 09:18 PM
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The 1998 last pattern version is in all silver colour finish 'new metal'. Extract from 'New Metal' by Chris Marsh:
Liverpool Scottish - Insignia, Organizational. Cap. All Ranks. V Company (The Liverpool Scottish) 5th/8th Kings. Nickel silver. Bright nickel plate. NSN 8455-99-869-2575 on Forbes tartan backing. This is the final and fourth badge manufactured in September 1998 and is the only item on the official inventory pattern No 28136. This badge was made of nickel silver with a bright nickel plate and has a more shiny appearance to the previously used pieces. It was not maker marked but has the more usual three lugs. It was deleted from the inventory on 29th August 2017. [NMI15]

Here is my example in my album https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...ctureid=142679
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Thanks for the reply Tim, it was really useful. How much do they normally retail for and how can I tell if it is a final pattern badge made.
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Old 11-03-23, 09:45 PM
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So, is what your saying is that it is a badge made a by a well known manufacturer? Was it for the collectors market?
Yes a well known manufacturer. Today,although unmarked most British badges are made by Firmin,TKS ( Toye,Kenning & Spencer ) and London Badge & Button Co.
No,it was an issue item.
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I do not think that your gold and silver coloured version shown in post 1 is an issued badge. So likely made as a commemorative or collectors item.

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Old 12-03-23, 09:18 AM
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My post 2 was referring to the bimetal version ,which I have somewhere in my fake/to be binned box
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Old 12-03-23, 10:38 AM
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Those who know me will be aware that I'm not a collector of military badges as such., but specialise in police insignia.

However, this thread caught my eye and I recalled being given a similar badge complete with feather hackle by a friend. This friend of mine was connected with the Altcar Training Camp in Merseyside and obtained the badge from the stores there. This was well over 20 years ago now and I recall him telling me that the badge was (at that time) obsolete.

Because of the Liverpool connection, I've carefully kept the badge and have retained it in its original packaging. See the attached photos. It is not maker marked.

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Very nice
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