Royal Artillery cloth badge

[Phill Lockett]

Hi friends

Would this be WWII era?


Cheers

Phill

[54Bty]

Any time from 1940 to 1960.

Marc

[Phill Lockett]

Hi Marc

So could this badge have been produced during WWII and used post WWII or did the embroidery and manufacturing style not change from 1940 to 1960 and could of been made in the 50's?

Im still trying to learn and understand on how to gauge the difference in WWII/Post WWII-1960 specific badges.

cheers mate

Phill

[manchesters]

looks very modern to me and NOT WW2.

regards

[Artynut]

Oh Dear, two very respected Gentlemen have posted quite different opinions on the badge shown. Of course, we cannot always find a definitive answer to some of the questions posed on this forum but the two Gentlemen I refer to have years of experience. So please help to clear the air and post your reasons for the opinions you've posted. It would certainly help those of us with far less knowledge. Since age of the badge seems to be in question here, if either of you answer this post, might you also offer an opinion on the badge that I show here in regards to it's approximate age.

[cbuehler]

Regarding the first badge, in my opinion, this is an early badge, ww2 and likely earlier. The backing material and style of construction is nothing like what I would expect to see in post ww2 made embroidered badges.
The second badge is also likely pre ww2.

CB

[54Bty]

The design and style of the gun badge in the first post was worn from 1940 to 1960, the same design in white and brown was also worn up to 1946.

The design and style of the second gun badge in the brown and khaki colours was worn from c1902, although the design is much earlier c1843, in gold wire on blue.

With all the designs the badges were worn past the obsolete date while stocks lasted.

When the particular individual badges posted were worn I can not say.

Sorry for any confusion.

Marc

[Phill Lockett]

Hi guys

Thanks for all the input.

I will document this as WWII era also worn until stocks lasted up to 1960.

Artynut I appreciated your response on the badge in question as I can now put it in my WWII groupings.

much appreciated for all the comments and clarification.

Phill

[manchesters]

Originally Posted by Artynut

Oh Dear, two very respected Gentlemen have posted quite different opinions on the badge shown. Of course, we cannot always find a definitive answer to some of the questions posed on this forum but the two Gentlemen I refer to have years of experience. So please help to clear the air and post your reasons for the opinions you've posted. It would certainly help those of us with far less knowledge. Since age of the badge seems to be in question here, if either of you answer this post, might you also offer an opinion on the badge that I show here in regards to it's approximate age.

Hello, Perhaps I to should consider my phrasing, by Modern I mean post WW2 era, and that would fit with the 50's, 60's period.

the second type you show is a nice old one of significant age.

These badges were produced and worn in such great numbers that it is often impossible to make a matching pair unless they come together.

Here are a few I can show to illustrate the point.

regards

[Phill Lockett]

Thanks Simon

I do understand where your coming from now that I have seen the many badge styles you have and the fact that badges were worn and used long after they were introduced.

My original thoughts were the embroidery style and the backing which consists of a woven cloth paper-backed for stabilizing the embroidery on a heavy wool base were manufactured earlier than later ie WWII than say 1960.

Anyway appreciate your reply.

cheers

Phill

[William Brooks]

Nice badge! Here is a picture of one shown in use on Sgt W.T. CANNON, 3rd Airlanding Anti Tank Battery, captured in Normandy.