Victorian artillery officer uniform?

[phaethon]

Hi all,

I came accross with the military jacket in Dublin and I would like to learn more in order to make a decision to get it or not.

Because I do not know almost anything about this uniform, then help would be great. Unfortunately I was able to make only two pictures with my phone and the quality is very bad because that.

To me looks like it is artilleery uniform jacket first at all because "grenades" on the collars. Its this kind a "pinguin" style like a frack. Buttons are crowns with the older gun under it - like a artillery badge.
Also there is screw posts on the shoulders, what makes me think its an officer one. Also cufftitles on the arms lloks pretty fancy.
There is some kind a loops or something on the left chest, what makes me think that there was an awards.

Its came out from Dublin area, so if its not artillery, maybe some kind a militia unit?

Any help would be great to ID it, also approx value and rarity.

Regards,

Timo

[phaethon]

Hi guys,

Coming half an hour I am heading back to the place to look at that uniform and I have to make my decision to get it or not.

As much iIlooked around now, I guess it can be volunteer artillery officer's tunic (Dublin City Artillery Militia????). Closest picture on internet I found here (uniform on the right):

http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/l...jectID=1630582

Also I am 100% sure that its artillery and its Victorian. Similar photos from Australian museum site:





Does any of you can advise me please with the aprox. value and rarity - I think to buy it but hate to pay too much. There is some buttons missing but meantime fabric is in good condition.

Kind Regards,

Timo aka Phaethon

[revdougal]

The Cuff Embroidery on the initial tunic is similar to that illustrated in Dress Regs for the Army 1900, in respect to a "Field Officer RA" - as shown in Plate 28. The second tunic has the adornment for a Subaltern Officer RA.

[colin 17]

Volunteer Artillery wore silver lace but Militia did wear gold so it possibly is Dublin Militia Artilery. If it had shoulder cords there would have had an M on them. Arty shoulder cords are easy to get. The M a bit harder but not impossible. It is a tunic for Majors and higher pre 1900 later on all officers wore the basic lace. If it is in good shape its worth anywhere up to 150 200 GBP.

Colin

[phaethon]

Better photos made today and thank you guys for all the info - it has been to me interesting random study moment - unfortunately nothing more, because owner is looking silly money for that now.

So, it is surelly Victorian era (pre 1900) Artillery officer tunic. Owner's rank was Major or higher.
Because golden lace, most likely owner of the jacket served with the Dublin City Artillery Militia.

There should be 9 buttons on the front. Unfortunately front side missing few buttons and one is different then others.
Rest of the buttons are all artillery ones with the Queen's crown. Unfortunately I forgot to check the maker on the back.



one different button (looks like Edward period - WW1 replacemen)



Bombardier’s chevrons at crimson collar trim. This one button is added later and should not be in there. Actually there are one screw posts at each neck edge for epaulettes as you can see on the second shot.

[phaethon]

Two flaps at back on either side of vent with two rows of bullion and three brass buttons on each flap (sorry, on the picture possible to see only two)



Senior officer arm cuffs (?)



one edge is slightly loose but probably easy to fix



front no holes, etc