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Chindits - Chinte?
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I'm fairly sure that this is a good one, 70mm across, very well made, signs of genuine age and in good but very slightly dirty! Could anyone please confirm it's chances of being genuine and also a rough value! |
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"There truly exists but one perfect order: that of cemeteries. The dead never complain and they enjoy their equality in silence." - “There are things we know that we know,” “There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we do not know we don't know.” Donald Rumsfeld, before the Iraqi Invasion,2003. Age is something that doesn't matter, unless you are a cheese. |
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Thanks Jo,
I'm sure this one is OK, just need a rough value now, cloth is not my area so I don't want to give it away, these are quite collectable, I do believe? Andy |
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Hi Andy, i've 3 orginal and a few not so's. price wise i've paid between £70 (Bosleys postal) & £90 (Rod at Minden Militaria). i've seen them sell on ebay around the £50ish. hope this helps and if you want to move it on you know where i am. Regards
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Your badge is fine that style of covered `bumpy` back is quite typical of this pattern of chindit badge. Can you detect any traces of a white chalky dust under the backing cloth ?
The chindit formation sign does turn up often in very good or unissued condition due to the fact that many of them were not worn and brought back as keep sakes . The newness just been made look can be a bit off putting at first glance and tempt collectors into thinking its a fake Aguments amongst collectors still rage over the issue were the badges worn on the last chindit operation or the badge was instituted after and worn only on the journey home to the UK . My own opinion based on no fact or proof at all is I will say yes i do think they were worn on operations but in very limited cases . In Jessie shaws book he states that on the troop ship home in 1945 there was a soldier who had been a pre war tailor and made up for a few pennies cigs etc ` all manner ` of chindit patches and titles infact the photo of sgt Shaw shows him wearing a chindit cloth title on VERY LIGHT coloured white /cream cloth backing ? ( it is strongly suggested - but i have no proof as yet that the design was around and used on tac - hut signs , official note paper etc a good while before the badges were thought up or manufactured ) Chindit formation signs can differ a hell of a lot in construction , i have seen examples woven on felt , blue canvas cloth with newspaper backing cloths wire bullion ,there is a smaller half size wire bullion example that is described by some as officers pattern but im tempted to say its an all ranks bush hat badge ( but please correct me ) there is even a metal circular example with the design PAINTED on , the circle metal disc has been punctured in four places around the edge to allow stitching direct to the uniform , this field made example could suggest the badges were infact worn on operations in limited numbers but is no way in any shape proof of the fact. Again there is a body of thought that the printed issue example was only worn in the UK and not worn or manufactured in the Far east ? would welcome any constructive comments on this badge and very keen to see a period photo of a chindit badge worn on active service AND a photo of a printed chindit sign worn outside the UK . Best wishes ,NEMO. Last edited by NEMO; 29-10-09 at 12:44 PM. |
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Hi NEMO, I have nothing solid to add to the posts but, there's a photograph of a soldier wearing this patch in Brian L.Davis' book "British Army Uniforms and Insignia of World War Two" on page 64 of L.Cpl. Zavier taking part in the Victory Parade in London.
Cheers Jo
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"There truly exists but one perfect order: that of cemeteries. The dead never complain and they enjoy their equality in silence." - “There are things we know that we know,” “There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we do not know we don't know.” Donald Rumsfeld, before the Iraqi Invasion,2003. Age is something that doesn't matter, unless you are a cheese. |
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Hi,
I had this same badge in my hands a few months back, bought off ebay from "K". I returned it for refund, I did not like the damage on the back, it looks as thought someone has rubbed the back of it on a brick to give it some "age" - didn't make sence - but this is my opinion. |
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On Construction I have a few, and the two main types I have are as shown above, great, almost too-good condition.... and my favourite a hand sewn example sewn around a piece of buckram... lovely badge all round...
Tom |
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Now in Teds collection??
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I've had a good look at the back of the badge and i dont think its been rubbed by a brick (i know its only a expression, bud) it seems where the backing is raised it has starting to crack and peel away! (i admit there is a few areas which have rubbing)! theres another piece apart to fall off and its only been in my day sack! in my opinion also badge with this type of backing can have the look of abrasion easily, i have a few new ones and with grubby hands etc.
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HI there , hello Arte , I do understand your comments about the back been messed with to age it but i am quite happy this is an original period badge , i have owned several and this bumpy style is quite a common factor ,regards , Nemo.
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Here are some examples from my collection in both the embroidered style and the bullion thread style.
Garth |
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A few more:
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Hello Gents,
Some really lovely patches there, envious doesn’t really cut it. These certainly make my single example seem rather modest, although I mustn’t complain as I have photo, medals, silk map, service doc’s etc, etc, that all came from the family along with this patch. Really lovely to see so many great examples, many thanks for sharing. Regards, Roy. |
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