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Manchester Grammar School ?
Picked this badge up this morning ,it was described as a Manchester Grammar School badge circa 1918.
Cox says "......in gilding metal and white metal. Initially the Corps badge was the owl only " This badge has small holes top and bottom for sewing on and someone has soldered a pin fitting on the back which could easily be removed. Can anyone please say if I have an OTC cap or collar badge or something else Thanks P.B.
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Will answer my own question after a bit of research, similar badge offered by Bosleys in their 20/10/10 Postal Auction ( thought I had seen one somewhere ). The Description was:
Manchester Grammar School Scarce white metal cap badge Die stamped owl on branch, Small holes for sewing on VGC (£20-£40 ) Unfortunately mine is missing a small piece of branch and a leaf. Can anyone please tell me what this one sold for. Thanks P.B.
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Peter
£75 Dubaiguy |
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Dubaiguy,
Thank you very much for that. Regards Peter
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As yet I can find no evidence to back up Bosley's description as a school OTC badge. It may have been for the school cap as such methods of fixing are quite often found on school hats but not military ones.
The school certainly wore owl badges in their school caps. This is an account of a Manchester Grammar School boy with a metal badge in his school cap. Cox's book is wide ranging and has a few errors in it. http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=C...0badge&f=false Last edited by Alan O; 27-04-22 at 04:06 PM. |
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Peter,
This badge has always been described as one version of the MGS OTC cap badge. I have only ever seen it worn on school caps and NEVER as an OTC badge. It is my opinion that this was never worn by the OTC. Ebay regularly has for sale a series of cigarette cards of school caps and MGS is Dark blue with 2 light blue rings and this badge is clearly seen sewn onto the front. They can be picked up on ebay for £25 The GM badge withouter ring and loops is the only OTC badge. regards
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Manchester GS cap badge
Does any member know how this owl is worn? I presume it is stitched onto a garment by the two holes in the badge.
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Hello,
Firstly its not a military badge. It is the school badge of Manchester Grammar School worn on the school cap in conjunction with the school blazer. It was sewn on. The other badge is the correct OTC cap badge. I have a picture of it which is in a word document which I will try and attach but not sure if it will. regards
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Simon Butterworth Manchester Regiment Collector Rank, Prize & Trade Badges British & Commonwealth Artillery Badges |
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I've taken the liberty of copying the image from the word document and adding it here as a JPEG for ease of access and reference.
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I have the card for my old school from that series, stuck in a frame on the mantel piece, don't know why really.
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Thank you all for the information, that solves that one!
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MGS otc
The pierced owl found in white metal and in sterling silver was worn initially on the school cap. The cadets wore the gilding metal owl in the title circle from inception until the unit was forced to close in 1923. The owl badges were worn in silver plate by cadet officers on the S.D. Tunic in FACING pairs. The unit started in Long Millgate behind Cheethams school before moving to Fallowfield after the Great War. A air training Corps was formed at this school during WW2. The high master of the school disbanded the OTC as a result of the number of chaps from the school KIA. To this day MGS does not have a cadet unit(CCF). Regarded as one of the best schools in the country.
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