A Discussion of Why?

[Arnhem Jim]

Given it's a quiet Sunday afternoon, other than being St. Patrick's Day, I was musing over a subject that seems to raise its ugly head periodically. Certainly by design in this thread.

That being the motivating factors in the creation of fraudulent military insignia.
• Obviously ranking number one is pure greed, with the prerequisite being an identified market.
• Secondly is the fact that there are only a limited number of certain genuine articles known remaining in existence.
• The requirement of reenactment groups representing all eras of history to recreate accurate uniforms, with the correct insignia.
• The requirements of theatrical and motion picture production needs.
• Requirement generated by museums as well as individuals, to have fillers/replicas of the real thing, in order to show people a representation of what something looked like in three dimensions.
Fascination and challenge seen by some individuals just to see whether they have the requisite knowledge, technical and artistic skills/ability to totally fool experts, as well as current forensic technology.

Consider however, Fake militaria is playing in the "bush leagues" compared to the field of other fraudulent antiques, i.e. furniture, art, porcelain/ceramics, for example. Unfortunately the psychology of human nature creates a ready Petri dish for frauds and counterfeiters. While bringing shame and ridicule thru exposure may be a transient solution, it's only successful litigation (almost prohibitively expensive and time consuming) which provides an effective deterrent.

Arnhem Jim aka Arnhemjim

Not exactly a new member (with 399 posts), but somehow the name got changed from Arnhemjim to Arnhem Jim, and I'm not sure how to correct it.

[Restrikes-ok]

I have an opinion but I've had my fair share of negative vibes and do not wish to attract more.

But in for a penny; I do not personally see it as a bad thing if its sold for peanuts and is sold as a restrike.

Who would have thought that helmet from the last job would come to be so handy after all !

[High Wood]

Originally Posted by Restrikes-ok

I have an opinion but I've had my fair share of negative vibes and do not wish to attract more.

But in for a penny; I do not personally see it as a bad thing if its sold for peanuts and is sold as a restrike.

Who would have thought that helmet from the last job would come to be so handy after all !

But therein lies the rub. If all restrikes were marked COPY we could sort the wheat from the chaff, but, as they aren't, there is nothing to stop restrikes being sold as genuine.

[mike c]

i agree with high wood, if restrikes were indeed back stamped copy then if you were after a particular badge to complete a frame you may be ready to buy a restrike as a filler,until you locate an original,however i personally would wait for the original to hopefully turn up.

[Restrikes-ok]

Wanted a 7DG shoulder title. Saw one on ebay (yes everyones fave place) I got outbidded at £17. Thats my problem. Its becoming a pastime for well off these days.

[Keith Blakeman]

Originally Posted by Restrikes-ok

Wanted a 7DG shoulder title. Saw one on ebay (yes everyones fave place) I got outbidded at £17. Thats my problem. Its becoming a pastime for well off these days.

That’s the going price for many WW1 cavalry titles, some such as the 21L, 10H and the low number Dragoon and Dragoon Guards can go for a lot more.

[Lancer 17]

Originally Posted by Restrikes-ok

I have an opinion but I've had my fair share of negative vibes and do not wish to attract more.

But in for a penny; I do not personally see it as a bad thing if its sold for peanuts and is sold as a restrike.

Who would have thought that helmet from the last job would come to be so handy after all !

G'day Restrike,

I just hope that you don't want to collect QVC 21st Lancers cap badges, theres 3 different ones and the 21st Hussars shoulder title, theres only one issue of this one and no cap badge. They all come at a high premium at over a hundred pounds each and beware of fakes of the type 2 cap badge with the upright lances.

Good luck

Phil.

[Restrikes-ok]

Originally Posted by Lancer 17

G'day Restrike,

I just hope that you don't want to collect QVC 21st Lancers cap badges, theres 3 different ones and the 21st Hussars shoulder title, theres only one issue of this one and no cap badge. They all come at a high premium at over a hundred pounds each and beware of fakes of the type 2 cap badge with the upright lances.

Good luck

Phil.

Done that group. Prob all restrikes apart from the motto and collar badge. Brought with that intention for being cheep. Doing RDG now.