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Yes, you have a point. If the original photo has been "embellished" at a later date then it's possible you have the right man but difficult to prove unless the officer you have found sounds familiar to the person making the query. David |
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Hi Chaps
Just re-reading the obituary which Peter has posted, the officer detailed doesn't seem to qualify for the France & Germany Star. However, the ribbons shown could also be: MC (& bar?) / 1939-45 Star / Africa Star (& clasp) / Italy Star / Defence Medal / War Medal. A further thought regarding the use of possible "artistic licence" - there appears to be a tiny clasp on the Africa Star ribbon but in reality the clasp was only worn on the full length medal ribbon - the small numeral "1" or "8" would have been worn on the ribbon bar. David Last edited by davidwyke; 19-12-15 at 02:53 PM. |
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Or a rose to represent the bar North Africa 1942-43.
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Hi Leigh
As you say, a silver rose for the "North Africa" clasp but did the Army qualify for that? I thought it was just RN, MN & RAF? David |
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Whilst appreciating that this may well not be the man in the picture which started this thread, here is the sale of medals of Charles Gregson:
http://www.lawrences.co.uk/Catalogue...115/lot0356.ht or: http://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/au...b-a54400ca4d0b P.B.
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I'm beginning to think it might be the right man. There are some anomalies with the portrait but if artistic licence is involved it's impossible to determine just how close to reality the portrait actually is. David |
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Apologies, you're right - another brain blip - a little worrying when it's not alcohol induced.
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He has Derbyshire connections, had a bar to his MC, and I believe a second bar was won in Korea. He was in RHA in 7th Armoured in north Africa and Italy and returned to the UK for the Normandy invasion. The good thing about Sir Peter is that it ought to be fairly easy to find photo's of him as he ended up as Lord Lieutenant of Derbyshire.
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Close up of medals.
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Military Cross (single award, no rosette as far as I can see), 1939-1945 Star, Africa Star (with what looks like might be a miniature clasp, which in reality only officially existed in full size), France & Germany Star, Defence Medal, War Medal.
If the depiction is accurate I think that rules out the Officer Peter found. David PS.....the details Peter found, also mention a brother - Geoffrey, presumably also an officer. I wonder if he could have won the MC and served in Europe by any chance?....... Last edited by davidwyke; 21-12-15 at 10:09 PM. Reason: additional info |
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Back to the Drawing Board.
Aged, Do you have any more clues, for example where does the connection with Belper come from ? The single M.C. opens up the number of possibilities enormously but I am sure we would all like to identify the man if at all possible. Peter
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Hello
You may have tried this already (and it is not a quick fix) but what about putting a letter (with the photo) in some local Derbyshire papers? The portrait is very well executed as far as facial details are concerned, so I am sure some relative, friend or colleague would recognise him. Fascinating thread by the way, all the research that is being done, on medals, possible names and so on. I wouldn't know where to start! Regards Roger |
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