Badge like Grenadier Guards

[TomPC]

Hi all,

I have two Grenadier Guards badges, or at least I think I do!

One is a standard brass KK891 GG ORs with 17 points of flame.

The other one (pictured) has 14 points of flame and the left and rightmost ends don't "droop" to follow the shape of the ball like in KK891.

It is is very different from the RM Artillery badge (KK1108) but I vaguely remember there being some relatively obscure yeomanry or VTC badge (possibly Scottish or beginning with F - from memory) that is also GG-like.

Any ideas what that unit is, or what my badge is?

Thanks and best wishes,

Tom

[grenadierguardsman]

Both used by the Grenadier Guards also, just different variants.
Andy

[TomPC]

Originally Posted by grenadierguardsman

Both used by the Grenadier Guards also, just different variants.
Andy

Thanks, GG!

Was it in circulation in WWI as far as we know? And can you think of that other unit I was talking about that "copied" your badge?

[grenadierguardsman]

The one on the left, if lugged N/S would be Victorian. The one with the slider is post 1906ish-1950's. Some time in the 50's the slider was binned ( as it didn't sit correctly, moved sideways ) I have some correspondence between the Regiment and Gaunts somewhere, reference this. From the national Archives.
Andy

[TomPC]

Originally Posted by grenadierguardsman

The one on the left, if lugged N/S would be Victorian. The one with the slider is post 1906ish-1950's. Some time in the 50's the slider was binned ( as it didn't sit correctly, moved sideways ) I have some correspondence between the Regiment and Gaunts somewhere, reference this. From the national Archives.
Andy

Perfect answer. Thank you.

T

[TomPC]

Originally Posted by TomPC

Hi all,

...I vaguely remember there being some relatively obscure yeomanry or VTC badge (possibly Scottish or beginning with F - from memory) that is also GG-like.

Tom

In case anyone's interested, the other badge I was trying to think of (that looked like the GG badge) was the band of the Royal Scots Greys (2nd Dragoons) and later (from 1971) of the Royal Scots Dragoon Guards (Carabiniers and Greys). See Gaylor p10 and KK1889 (Vol II).

[leigh kitchen]

I thought the SDG badge had the slightly less full 14 - 15 point flame rather than the fuller 17 point flame?

[grenadierguardsman]

Leigh is correct.
Andy

[grey_green_acorn]

GREYS and later SCOTS DG Bandsmen - K&K 1889 - It is also smaller than the fired grenade of the Grenadier Guards.
Also in Gaylor

Tim

[David Tremain]

There's also the Fifeshire Artillery Volunteers, forage cap (pre-1902), general pattern, WM, as for Grenadier Guards (KK838).
David