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Old 03-04-21, 06:30 AM
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Default Para Regiment Hat Badges Assistance

Gents,

I would appreciate assistance identifying good from bad with these eight hat badges?

As you can see they are made of different materials, all have lugs on the rear and there are no markings on any of the badges.

Thanks for any assistance.

Paul
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Old 03-04-21, 10:33 AM
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The one circled with the fat lion nearly falling off the back of the crown in much debated as they appear on Marbles & Beasley repro sliders plus several examples with modern looking footed lugs.

Commonly these examples possess several die flaws discussed in a couple other threads, however, there is an example lacking these flaws which does look much more period.

The others all look good to me.
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Old 03-04-21, 10:48 AM
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Just an observation but when talking to a member of the British Airborne fraternity, it's never a good idea to use the term "Hat" alongside the words "Parachute Regiment".. could lead to all kinds of misunderstandings.....

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Old 03-04-21, 11:46 AM
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Just an observation but when talking to a member of the British Airborne fraternity, it's never a good idea to use the term "Hat" alongside the words "Parachute Regiment".. could lead to all kinds of misunderstandings.....

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Old 03-04-21, 11:52 AM
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Quite right - should read beret. Don't want to give the 'hats' any ideas!

Having once jumped for a living I'm disgusted with this oversight and have taken myself on a 'tab' to sort myself out.

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Old 03-04-21, 02:29 PM
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OK, I know the Airborne wear maroon berets, but am not familiar with the term "Hats". Can you all enlighten a Yank please?

FYI, "Suits" over here refers to management in the civilian world.

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Old 03-04-21, 02:32 PM
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Soldiers who are not parachute qualified are known as 'hats' Terry.

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Old 03-04-21, 03:26 PM
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Terry, its a shortening of 'crap hat' . . .I.e. anything that isn't an airborne maroon beret, is 'crap' . . Esprit de corps . . .
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...and across the pond, we called them “legs.”
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bottom right appears to be from the gaunt die
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I'd be rather surprised if that term was in popular usage during the period in which the badges in this thread were actually worn, as far as I an aware, it was not.


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Yes Frank it certainly wasn't used during the war.

Is that a good or bad sign being from the Gaunt dies Jerry?

At the moment U'm only tracking one dodgy badge from the 8.

Paul
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Yes Frank it certainly wasn't used during the war.

Is that a good or bad sign being from the Gaunt dies Jerry?

At the moment U'm only tracking one dodgy badge from the 8.

Paul
Gaunt die is good Paul
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Thanks Jerry.

Good collecting

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Quite right - should read beret. Don't want to give the 'hats' any ideas!

Having once jumped for a living I'm disgusted with this oversight and have taken myself on a 'tab' to sort myself out.

Thanks for the replies

Paul
Hi Paul
Dont Tab out....yet.

Royal Army Clothing Dept. pattern 12497 referred "Badge Cap, Parachute Regt." approved 25-3-43

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