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#2
12-10-16, 08:49 PM
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I have this one in silver/gilt
Tim
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"Manui dat cognitio vires - Knowledge gives strength to the arm" "Better to know it but not need it than to need it and not know it!" "Have more than thou showest, speak less than thou knowest." 
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12-10-16, 08:50 PM
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Back of badge
Tim
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"Manui dat cognitio vires - Knowledge gives strength to the arm" "Better to know it but not need it than to need it and not know it!" "Have more than thou showest, speak less than thou knowest."
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13-10-16, 01:01 AM
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hi paul
im no expert but it looks good to me bc
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13-10-16, 07:27 AM
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No, I don't think it is.
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13-10-16, 10:42 AM
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Paul
I note your dislike for slider versions - mine came from a good source and I passed up another from another well respected source. I would welcome your (or any other) thoughts on why they may be dubious - as mentioned I am certainly no expert on these Regards and thanks Mike
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13-10-16, 11:26 AM
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IWM Image NA 25752
Not much help, but what smart soldiers they were. I wonder what the GIs made of the ROUGH RIDERS titles. Teddy Roosevelt and the (US) Rough Riders - an important bit of US folklore. Mike NA 25752 1 CLY.02.jpg
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#10
13-10-16, 11:30 AM
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Hi Mike, there's a couple of threads on the slidered badge that throw some doubt on them. Sorry, I'm computer illiterate so cant attach the thread but its 'Rough riders opinions please' by Sapperson and 'Rough riders collar badge' by sean michael Cronin, cheers,
Paul
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#11
13-10-16, 12:30 PM
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Many thanks - I respect the views of others and learn from them. I note that opinion is not unanimous though. The sources I have spoken to are respected but it would be wrong to name them without permission. They have large well established airborne collections and include the slider example in their own collections - may be they are wrong, but I would consider their knowledge very advanced. The opinions in the last post of the first thread (below) appear feasible. But I am no expert regarding this insignia and always stand to be corrected. Mike
http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...iders+opinions http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...s+collar+badge Mike Last edited by Mike B; 13-10-16 at 12:38 PM.
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#12
13-10-16, 01:11 PM
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The IWM have a large collection of RR badges and patches. The full sized City of London Crest cap badges (they have various) are all slidered.
They have the post War K/c one here: http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/30135931 and the 1908 large pattern with additional wreath here: http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/30135927 The collars are lugged http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/30135934 The Spur headdress badge is lugged: http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/30135933 With 3 lugs it is a large Edwardian era version for the slouch hat. So a set of s/p cards from 1908 up to 1958 but no slidered spur badge. It's not conclusive but as these spurs have been widely reproduced and fitted with sliders to fill a gap in collectors markets, I am wary of them. Last edited by Alan O; 13-10-16 at 03:16 PM.
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#13
13-10-16, 01:12 PM
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I'd certainly expect a real example to look more like Tim's, it is important to remember that the rank and file simply used regiments collar badge, officers did have their own version, but, these were embroidered and made specifically for use on their caps and berets.
As a pair of collars, these only seldom come up for sale, because examples with the rowel on the right on always taken to be head dress badge. I have seen many examples down the years on sliders, some genuine, in as much as an original collar has been modified, but, I have never seen such with an acceptable provenance, in that, it was bought/given from it's original owner, who had served in the Air Landing Brigade, although I'd only ever known just three men who had actually served in an airborne role, originally as members of the regiment, before becoming gunners proper, but, perhaps other people have. Quote:
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