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Old 06-04-22, 12:50 PM
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Default Cambs ORs badge with loops.

The postperson has just brought me a badge that I thought just had to be well worth the £3.99 that the seller was asking for it. It did originally have a slider, of course, but was this a period conversion, I ask myself, what do you think?
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Old 06-04-22, 06:23 PM
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Chris,
The slider was fixed on originally, but probably broke, maybe during manufacture, I would say the loops have been added but not that recently.

A bargain for that price.

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Old 06-04-22, 06:43 PM
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I think converted at point of manufacture for whatever reason.

Appears to me the slider was more likely removed rather than a break. Notwithstanding if the slider broke that cleanly during manufacture you can see it would be easy to attach another and go again.

The colour of the gold braze around both loops appears broadly the same as the central scar, they all seem to show a very similar patina suggesting it was the same process done around the same time. Those loops are not a home DIY job IMO.
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Old 07-04-22, 11:31 AM
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Yes, many thanks, chaps, I did think the braze on the loops looked very similar to that where the slider had been. We could possibly have an original Cambridgeshire ORs badge on loops, here, and this surely cannot be the only one, the search must go on!
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Old 07-04-22, 01:25 PM
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I have dug out my Cambridgeshire cap badge with loops, as can be seen by the pics this one had a slider fixed at one point and was replaced by two loops.

The badge has no braze holes and I would say was a later production than badges with braze holes or slots.

I think Luke is correct in saying the slider was removed at the point of manufacture, but why?

Loops hold a badge in place on the cap or beret much better than sliders, could it be that this badge was converted for wear on the beret post WWII.

Just a thought . . !

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Old 07-04-22, 03:18 PM
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Aha! I just knew that I couldn't possibly have the only one that there is !!!

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Old 08-04-22, 08:20 AM
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Its time to correct a misconception, The badge was never fitted with a slider!
In the manufacturing process a badge was pre brazed prior to receiving a fitting, A very good example of this is the Highland regiment with its pre brazing point's at the terminals of the saltire, I suspect the factory that had the tender for the Highland regiment also had it for the Lowland Regt.
Now specification's for the badge's as we all know was, 2 lug's for the highland Regt and 4 lugs for the lowland Regt. Now, Lets assume a mistake was made during production, whereas the highland regiment was pre brazed for 4 lug's instead of 2 but was corrected before lugs could be attached, A simple error if the assumption was the bigger the badge the more lug's! Anyway I digress! The
point I'm putting across Is, If you have a badge like the one in the 1st post it has not had its slider removed as it was never fitted with one!
Another example, The 1924 tank regiment, Pre brazed for lug's but fitted with a slider! Regards Ricardo
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Old 08-04-22, 08:57 AM
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As has been well covered in past threads, albeit the Cambridgeshire Regiment's badges not having been mentioned.
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Old 08-04-22, 09:13 AM
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This is something that I had not thought about, pre-brazing in production.

However, the majority of other ranks badges that I have had all have sliders fitted, this badge in the first post and mine have loops, were they given loops instead of sliders for wear on the beret in the 1950's.

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Old 08-04-22, 11:49 AM
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Ah! everything is becoming much clearer, I must admit that I was rather dubious about this Cambs badge with loops to begin with, hence, where it's been posted. However, as I am, yet again, refilled with enthusiasm, I will be needing another one of these to make up one more pair.

Once more, the Land of the Free beckons, and there just happens to be another one of these in Hempstead, NY. Funnily enough, I already have a Cambs ORs collar badge on it's way from Wilmington, DE. How did these things get over there, I wonder, they were not very far apart from each other, they're just 3000 miles away from me!
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Old 08-04-22, 06:41 PM
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Chris, I once exchanged a Victorian Suffolk cap badge for a City of Norwich (VTC) cap badge from a guy in Australia, how it got there who knows, badges move a bit . . !

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I have dug out my Cambridgeshire cap badge with loops, as can be seen by the pics this one had a slider fixed at one point and was replaced by two loops.

The badge has no braze holes and I would say was a later production than badges with braze holes or slots.

I think Luke is correct in saying the slider was removed at the point of manufacture, but why?

Loops hold a badge in place on the cap or beret much better than sliders, could it be that this badge was converted for wear on the beret post WWII.

Just a thought . . !

Rob
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I have from the National Archives copies of letters, from the Grenadier Guards to a badge manufacturer asking for loops specifically for the purpose you mention.
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Old 08-04-22, 08:03 PM
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I have from the National Archives copies of letters, from the Grenadier Guards to a badge manufacturer asking for loops specifically for the purpose you mention.
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Andy, thanks for the information, I have always thought that loops were the better method of fixing O/R's cap badges.

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Andy, thanks for the information, I have always thought that loops were the better method of fixing O/R's cap badges.

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Yes, same here.
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