A mammoth task? fake or fortune?

[Irv]

12 more. I will just post a picture of the front. If and are suspect I will post more detailed pictures of back etc.
Thanks again for the help.
Irv

[Irv]

Picture

[gb64]

Hello Irv, picture quality not great but I’d say 4 of the Royal Artillery cap badges are what’s know as the tall orb copies .

Gerard

[MH331]

I disagree that the memorial plaqued are copies. The copies are not of the quality of originals and they are difficult to reproduce effectively. If others know better please educate me.

They may have been mounted in frames at some point

Mark

Originally Posted by Irv

Thanks Luke/Andy
I thought the pennies were ok but I know they fake these as well. As I thought for the rest. This is only the tip of the iceberg ?
There are bags of cap badges. All of which are probably suspect but you never know. There might be a gem in with the dross but I have no idea.
I’ll be posting more over the next few days.
Regards
Irv

[Irv]

Hi Gerard,
If you number them left to right and then down which do you think are fake. I can do close ups if you let me know which you want a closer look at. Any opinion on the other non artillery badges?

Originally Posted by gb64

Hello Irv, picture quality not great but I’d say 4 of the Royal Artillery cap badges are what’s know as the tall orb copies .

Gerard

[Irv]

Hi Mark,
I think it was the opinion that these were good ones.
Regards
Irv

Originally Posted by MH331

I disagree that the memorial plaqued are copies. The copies are not of the quality of originals and they are difficult to reproduce effectively. If others know better please educate me.

They may have been mounted in frames at some point

Mark

[Irv]

The backs

[manchesters]

I believe the following are genuine.

2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8 and 11.

The rest are fakes

best wishes

[Luke H]

The QC RA’s (7 & 8) are fake too Simon note the nick in the scroll same as the tall orbs the lettering and seeding on the Quo Fas… scroll is same stable as the KC series.

[manchesters]

Originally Posted by Luke H

The QC RA’s (7 & 8) are fake too Simon note the nick in the scroll same as the tall orbs the lettering and seeding on the Quo Fas… scroll is same stable as the KC series.

Thanks Luke, my error.

best wishes

[Irv]

I’ve been speaking to my friend and it turns out these are family members.
Charles Winch (probably Royal Sussex Regiment as he lived in Kent) stepped on a land mine. And Francis Warne died at Ypres, his cap badges are here somewhere. He says he also had the telegram and a few other items relating to him. He also tells me there are some glider regiment cloth patches with this lot that belonged to his grand dad. He flew into Holland. I have found a blue one but he says there are red ones?

Originally Posted by oc14

The two memorial plaques (I detest the term "Death Plaque" "Dead Man's Penny" or similar - the item has a correct, respectful name) are as follows:-

1) Francis Frederick Warne was 14019 Private, 14th Battalion The Hampshire Regiment - he was killed in action in France on 3rd September 1916. He has no known grave and is commemorated on The Thiepval Memorial To The Missing.

2) Charles Winch has two possible candidates:-

a) G-3572 Private, 2nd Battalion The Queen's (Royal West Surrey) Regiment. Killed in action in France on 16th May 1915. Has no known grave and is commemorated of Le Touret Memorial to the Missing.
or
b) G-8003 Private, 9th Battalion The Royal Sussex Regiment, killed in action in France on 31st August 1916. Has no known grave and is commemorated on the Thiepval Memorial to the Missing.

Paul

[Irv]

Next 12

[manchesters]

The following are fake.

1,2,3,4,5,7,9,10, 11 & 12.

6 looks OK

8 I have no idea.

I am of the opinion that the whole collection was probably bought without any knowledge of British badges, trusting in sellers and all will be the same as this.

95% out and out fakes with a smattering of very common originals.

best wishes

[Irv]

Thanks Simon,
I petty much agree with you but I need to go though it. I’m sure members will get bored but some good hearted knowledgeable members will help me out.
Thanks again for your input.
Regards
irv

Originally Posted by manchesters

The following are fake.

1,2,3,4,5,7,9,10, 11 & 12.

6 looks OK

8 I have no idea.

I am of the opinion that the whole collection was probably bought without any knowledge of British badges, trusting in sellers and all will be the same as this.

95% out and out fakes with a smattering of very common originals.

best wishes

[Irv]

All these badges were owned by I nice old man who has sadly died. His son is trying to do the right thing and make sure they either get binned or sold on to us the collector.
Please stick with me to help
If you need a more detailed picture before giving a thumbs up or thumbs down please let me know.
Number 9 I think is good, for what it’s worth. Just need a more experienced eye to look at it.

Regards
Irv