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Old 15-08-20, 12:17 AM
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Default Help with Dating a Scot's Guards badge please???

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Can anybody date this Scot's Guards (Officers) Cap Badge Please???

Looks Silver, but not tested??

Anybody have any idea on what the value would be???

Thanks for Looking

Mark
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Old 15-08-20, 03:51 AM
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Barron, I am sorry, but I have to share this with you. When I first read the subject of your post I read it as a BADGE FOR HELPING SCOTS GUARDS GET DATES! And, I was thinking, they shouldn't be having any trouble getting dates - spiffy uniform like that!

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Old 15-08-20, 09:27 AM
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Hi Mark
There is no real way of telling the date, it could be anything from WWI to modern. It is however, a lovely badge and I am sure it is unmarked silver as you say.
As for value, I have a few and the price can vary literally from £30-£80, depending on the seller. Usually unmarked ones don't fetch a premium price.
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Old 15-08-20, 10:25 AM
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Looks to me like it may have been re-lugged at some point. I think the discolouration and lack of gilt is due to heat when doing the job.
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Old 15-08-20, 12:08 PM
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Thanks
Terry
You have started my day with a smile

Alex
Thanks for the quote, was told pre 1950 when I bought it 20 years ago, ????
Badge is shaped to fit the cap, but so solid I don't know how they have bent it.


Para
Yes one of the Lugs is raised but solid.
(may have been )
The colour of the tarnishing is like a rainbow, my photo doesn't do it justice.

Hopefully a better photo.

Thanks again all.
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Old 16-08-20, 09:41 AM
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I think it lacks the quality of older badges, but, it does not really matter given it's present condition, which is a shame.


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Can anybody date this Scot's Guards (Officers) Cap Badge Please???

Looks Silver, but not tested??

Anybody have any idea on what the value would be???

Thanks for Looking

Mark
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Old 16-08-20, 12:34 PM
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Thanks Frank

Can you elaborate more please?
I would really value what you think about the badge.

Only one I have ever had and went with the dealers description?

Best wishes Mark.
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Old 17-08-20, 12:43 PM
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Not really, it is what it is, very badly messed with, if it was in it's original condition it would be okay.


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Can you elaborate more please?
I would really value what you think about the badge.

Only one I have ever had and went with the dealers description?

Best wishes Mark.
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Old 17-08-20, 02:06 PM
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Thanks Frank
Obviously not a fan then !!!
Yes your right it is what it is,
But to me it's got that been there look, and you can't please everyone.
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Old 17-08-20, 02:15 PM
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Take it apart and dip the star in silver dip, it looks like tarnish not a burn mark to me from the pictures.
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Old 17-08-20, 02:33 PM
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Thanks Magpie
Cleaned this badge when I first got it 20 years ago, the way you have stated, hence Un- marked Silver, ( it came up lovely)

What you see is TARNISH the badge is not burned at all (my photo skills need to improve)

As for badly messed with ??? Haven't got a clue what that means??? (But doesn't sound good at all).

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In my opinion, there is nothing wrong at all with this badge. Silver does tarnish in different ways and it has not been repaired.
It is a common badge and I agree that it is likely a post WW2 made example judging from its appearance.

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Old 17-08-20, 03:19 PM
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Thanks CB

Your opinion is truly valued.

Best wishes and good luck
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Old 17-08-20, 07:26 PM
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It has not been repaired?
So do you think it is in completely original condition, as manufactured?





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In my opinion, there is nothing wrong at all with this badge. Silver does tarnish in different ways and it has not been repaired.
It is a common badge and I agree that it is likely a post WW2 made example judging from its appearance.

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Old 17-08-20, 10:12 PM
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Yes, I think those are the original lugs. They are not very well done, which is sometimes the case, with one starting to come off. That may appear to be solder, but I don't think it is. Solder will appear more grey in shade. The braze used on silver badges is often of this color. The polishing the owner did also likely brightened them up.
Here is an Irish Guards badge that has the same braze and is not repaired.


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