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Old 26-06-19, 05:53 PM
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Hi both different, bogey wheels to front, slider to the rear of both ( do these come with lugs? aware that lugs aren't good but is this set in stone? )

If someone has a good badge to post to assess the differences would appreciate it, many thanks Billy
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Old 26-06-19, 07:26 PM
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Example on the left looks brand new, my advice would be to seek a refund, not very keen on the other, to be honest.


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Hi both different, bogey wheels to front, slider to the rear of both ( do these come with lugs? aware that lugs aren't good but is this set in stone? )

If someone has a good badge to post to assess the differences would appreciate it, many thanks Billy
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Old 26-06-19, 08:27 PM
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Thanks Frank will seeknout a proper badgecand discard these, many thanks billy
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Old 27-06-19, 01:33 AM
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I would hang on to the right one. Don't rush to get rid. Regards, Paul.
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Old 27-06-19, 04:55 AM
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K & K is too dark a picture, right one similar to an Officers marked Collar I have, would like to see a good one too compare against? Many thanks Billy
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Old 27-06-19, 07:06 AM
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It should not be, in any way, similar, officers collars were die cast and very clearly, differ in size too, I would think the right example is okay, but, I would want a better one, that looks it's age, I certainly would not "discard" it.

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Old 27-06-19, 09:19 AM
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Hi Billy

attached is what I think is a good one, to compare:

Cheers, Tim
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Old 27-06-19, 10:01 AM
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Hi Billy, the left one has the spanner type track tensioner, which is commonly accepted as a fake. The right hand one is also faked. I believe it is based on the J&Co officer's badge and may have been used in WW1, one I have I quite like, but I also have 3 copies. Tim yours is the same as the right hand badge, best wishes Mike
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Old 27-06-19, 04:37 PM
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Mike the Officers badge I have is the J & Co Collar, checked the voiding and different between both badges, the Spanner put into restrike box! The right one is this fine? Or one to look out for?

Thanks for your help eveyone, if someone could send me a p.m. telling me what to look out for so I don't buy crap! Slider 1st WW type crimp good, no lugs! Cheers billy
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Old 28-06-19, 06:43 AM
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I don't understand, are you saying the right hand badge, which I don't like, is an original example of a badge that has been copied, or, are you saying that particular example is a copy, perhaps you can clarify?


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Old 28-06-19, 07:22 AM
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The right one also has 'spanner' bolts if you look carefully so I would personally avoid it.

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Old 28-06-19, 10:08 AM
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Hi, the right hand badge I believe to be based on the J&Co badge. I have 3 examples that are copies and one that I think may be WW1 vintage. Without having one with provenance it is hard to say if they were produced in WW1 or not, hope that helps,Mike
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Old 28-06-19, 10:51 AM
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Hi Billy

There was a resent thread on this badge with good photos with circles and arrows. Id suggest that you try to find this as it seemed to be the "Good Word" on these badges.

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Old 28-06-19, 10:58 AM
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Hi all ,

Iím hoping on a thumbs up on my example , the lugs were removed a replaced with a slider .

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Old 29-06-19, 06:21 PM
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Were original Tank Corps actually made with lugs?
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