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Old 10-07-19, 01:19 PM
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Default Black Scottish? formation sign.

I am struggling to identify this black patch worn on a Royal Artillery B.D. There may be an India - Burma connection.
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Old 10-07-19, 01:39 PM
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A representation of the 18th Division sign?
A "make do" to represent a Government Tartan cut out of the Black Watch badge?
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Old 10-07-19, 02:44 PM
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Never seen anything like it. Appears to be a piece of oil cloth cut in the shape of the Royal Scots cap badge. ???

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Old 10-07-19, 03:18 PM
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Perhaps just the backing cloth remaining and the tartan has frayed and come away or been destroyed by moths!

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Old 10-07-19, 04:05 PM
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I was told by the owner that there was a possible Black Watch connection but I didn't mention it earlier as I didn't want to influence your replies.

Why would a Royal Artillery Officer be wearing a Black Watch patch?

If there is cloth missing what colour/design should it be?
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He appears to be Black Swatch
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He appears to be Black Swatch
Oh, very droll. It is obviously a very rare, non-reflective, Special Forces recognition sign used by undercover agents posing as Royal Highland Ack Ack gunners. J.D.R. will have several on his website soon at very affordable prices.
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Old 10-07-19, 06:57 PM
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A slack batch of insignia?
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Oh, very droll. It is obviously a very rare, non-reflective, Special Forces recognition sign used by undercover agents posing as Royal Highland Ack Ack gunners. J.D.R. will have several on his website soon at very affordable prices.
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Perhaps just the backing cloth remaining and the tartan has frayed and come away or been destroyed by moths!

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Tim I know Jack about cloth items, but that was my thoughts too .
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The Tyneside Scottish were reformed in 1947 as 670 LAA Regt (Tyneside Scottish), The Black Watch, Royal Highland Regiment.

That wonderful publication, Badges on Battledress by one Jon Mills says the Black Watch flash was worn by 670 LAA Regt RA from 1954. Retained as S Battery 439 LAA Regt after 1955. The example illustrated is a tartan patch however (5338, page 1073).

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Keith,

thanks for the update. I am still attempting to get the details regarding the original owner which should provide some answers.

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670th Light Anti-Aircraft Rgt RA, (Tyneside Scottish) (TA) 1947-55.
Small pair arm flashes 2x2 inch on khaki backing.
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