On War Service 1915 badge

[Artynut]

Thank you for your very informative answer Mike. D.J.

[dumdum]

Hi Mike and others

Interested to see this badge which I'd always thought was WW2 with the maker's mark (T.& S. Ltd?) and the unusual "snowflake" pattern to the reverse. Some Australian lapel badges use this technique but they tend to be from the 1940's on.

I would be very pleased if it is indeed WW1 as this is the period that really interests me!

Can anyone confirm, please?

[mike_vee]

Another Gaunt "rounded corner" 1916 badge on eBay , first glance shows tool/vice marks and where one corner has been 'sheared' off. Also fittings have been removed but going for £7.50 + pp.

Still looking for a manufactured rather than modified example.

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[Tweed]

This is one I have had while, too pointy for you ?

[mike_vee]

Originally Posted by Tweed

This is one I have had while, too pointy for you ?

Looks like a nice example , the corners appear to have been 'bowed' slightly which is a trait you see quite often.

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[Tweed]

Indeed,
It’s an interesting piece of symbolism an equilateral triangle with 3x60 degrees

[mike_vee]

Spotted an unusual Gaunt 1915 OWS badge , originally it was an 'N' series but the letter has been ground/filed down but is still visible.

What is interesting is that the number on the buttonhole fitting has a 'J' prefix ! This is the first one I have seen which is odd as it has a five figure number .

From 'Ticker's' post :

The reason I say ‘K’, and not ‘J’, is that the only examples I have seen with ‘J’ are where this appears stamped on the buttonhole fixing immediately in front of the number, and where other letters have been erased from behind the crown . It is my belief, therefore, that the ‘J’ series was chronologically after the ‘Z’ series.

If they needed to manufacture 30,000 + badges why would they not have produced a proper 'J' series ?

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[mike_vee]

Originally Posted by mike_vee

So, although I now have both Gaunt and Wylie versions there is no definitive proof that they were 'manufactured' this way and they may 'possibly' just be the result of 'modification' by a skillful jeweller/metal worker !

Spotted another Wylie 1916 'rounded corner' badge , while the corners are not as 'rounded' as on my badge they do look like a 'modification' by a skillful jeweller/metal worker !

No signs of the usual/crude marks made by shearaing/filing and no indications of it being held in a vice but I'm not convinced it was 'manufactured'.

I now think that my badge may simply be a top class 'modification' but still hang on to the hope that Wylie may have actually 'manufactured' them this way.

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[MPS]

Hello

Can any member provide a web link to or better still send me electronic copies of the articles originally published in Issues 45 and 46 of “The Armourer” magazine (2001) by Tom Tulloch-Marshall - “On War Service” Badges, 1914-19. The Official Issues.

Thanks in advance.

Mark