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Royal 1st Devon Yeomanry or 1st Royal Dragoons
A new picture in my collection, I'm leaning towards it being Devon because of the oversized titles? On the back is written 20/4/15 or 20/6/15.
All thoughts welcome. Rob |
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Rob,
The 1st/1st Royal 1st Devon Yeomanry (TF) were in the Colchester area on both those dates. The 2nd/1st were not there until Sept. 1915 and of course St Osyth is near Colchester, so no doubt 1st/1st R.1st DY. regards
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Great picture thanks for sharing.
I agree Royal 1st Devon Yeo. You can see the difference in colour between the brighter brass buttons, shoulder title and studs versus the comparatively ‘dark’ cap badge. Just right for a bronzed badge I’d say! Cheers, Luke Last edited by Luke H; 16-07-18 at 07:17 PM. |
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1st Devon Yeo.... great image.
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There is a phot on the forum of the w/m badge worn on a khaki cap so it was not just reserved for Blues hats.
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The thread in question with the ‘white metal’ badge worn on a trench cap in posts #8 and #9:
https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...Devon+Yeomanry Devils advocate, can anyone say that badge is WM for definite? Could just as easily have been a bronzed badge that’s been polished to ‘shiny’ brass/GM, or, may never have been bronzed. Cleeman’s slidered badge in post #2 looks to be a good candidate with no traces of bronzing at all. Perhaps in wartime they skipped that finish? Cheers, Luke |
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16th (1RDY/NDH) Devon' Regt, 74th Yeo Div.
Hi All
Rob Miller put me onto this WW1 Brodie from another place and I am doing a bit of detective work on it. The original markings are the 74th Yeo Div black diamond and then a side by side flash on the other side. At some point after its use in the 74th .... the helmet has been used by another ODDY 235567..... with a blue rectangle painted over the original marking. I have done a search on that reg number and its not a yeo number.... so it belongs to the blue rectangle. The original markings:- 74th Yeo Div ..... obvious The other side appears to be two Pagri flashes together at a guess.... that of the R1stDY and then the RNDH? So both their Galliopli Flashes combined to make one for Egypt/Palestine/France&Flanders. Thats what I am thinking anyway... Can anyone confirm the regimental colours for each Yeomanry?
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Interestingly .... the amalgamated Royal Devon Yeomanry has these colours. So .... its looking good as a theory at the moment
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A Bit more info..... that chaps name and number inside the helmet proves that he started out in the Devonshire Regiment and then transferred into the SLI within the same Brigade. So the "blue" rectangle painted over the Devons Yeo decals is the marking for the 12th (WSY) Btn SLI in France & Flanders 1918. 12SLI numbers start 295*** and blue being the Brigade colour. I would suggest that its only a rectangle on the helmet because the large 16DR decal on the helmet had to be covered.
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Cofion gorau Gruffydd M-J www.paoyeomanry.org.uk "A Yeoman from the Stalwart Rural Cavalry" Lechyd da pob Cymro Last edited by GriffMJ; 28-01-19 at 10:12 AM. |
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I know with the void between the leg and cross it’s deemed General staff not R1DY but does this necessarily work the other way - i.e. is no void definitely R1DY and ‘not’ GS. I don’t see why they couldn’t be interchangeable. Does anyone have an opinion? |
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Just to re-visit this one. The early R1DY other ranks WM badge as worn on the coloured dress cap are all found on these thin brass tang fixings identical to the middle badge in post #18. They are also from the same die.
In addition to the bronzed version above on tangs I now have a GM example with the same fixings, also from the same die. Therefore I believe the bronzed and GM badges are similarly early-ish R1DY cap badges for ORs and not officers or GS items. |
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So OR's, white metal for blues cap, bronze and GM for service dress cap. Do you think the badge I have in my OP is an Other ranks bronze badge, albeit having new fittings? Cheers Chris |
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The badge in the OP is without doubt an other ranks R1DY cap badge in bronzed finish. Bronzed finish badges for other ranks were popular and used by many Yeomanry pre-war and during.
Your badge is from the same die as the example shown in KK and Gaylor and is I suspect of wartime manufacturer. These badges are in 99% of cases found on loops, but I have seen one example with an extruded slider which forms part of my former supposition. Additionally I have seen wartime photos of this unique shaped crown being worn by Yeomen. I have never seen that type with tangs so whilst the loops may have been repaired on your badge I don’t doubt they’re it’s original fixings. |
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Just to add to the mix, here is my badge with lugs. Regards, John |
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