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Old 17-04-21, 11:51 AM
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Default A rare collection of early RFC, ARF, RAF and ATA wings. Or are they?

An interesting group of RFC, ATA and early RAF wings appeared on ebay on a 3 day listing, all having been bought '...in the 1970s and 80s...' They have a touch of authenticity about them but all seem very 'home made' or immature in their manufacture...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/spanmil/m...p2047675.l2562

Then I noticed another identical set, which came from a 'diseased' collector...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/lord-fusa...p2047675.l2562

Thoughts...?

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Old 17-04-21, 11:58 AM
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This seller is renowned for selling spurious items and he has been discussed before in these threads:

https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...ad.php?t=65542

https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...ad.php?t=64288

To also note: The ARP tunic he currently has listed has definite fake insignia on it.
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Old 17-04-21, 12:16 PM
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Ahhhh, so are they one and the same (unfortunately some of those links are dead, but thank you for the reply).

I have a suspicion on 'Lord Fusaro', someone I was warned about 25 years or so ago...
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Old 17-04-21, 12:24 PM
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As Wooffy says Span Militaria which is run by Andy Beale has specialised for 20+ years in having manufactured and offering for sale reproductions of almost every type of militaria, helmets, bayonet scabbards, caps, badges etc etc.

Lord Fusaro is an alias of a similar person Nigel Flitter.

He trades as military-trader-uk, hugo-sebastian, winston-churchill, 55nf, lord.fles, 435d-n, hsf2018 also.

there are plenty of these people out there unfortunately.

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Old 17-04-21, 01:29 PM
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I was aware of Flitter, (along with his dad Tony and brother Adam), being warned about him by a leading auctioneer many years ago, but didnt know all his alias'. Thanks for updating me.

Spanmil I'd seen, but wasnt aware of their history. Thanks for that too.
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Old 18-04-21, 07:01 AM
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My thoughts would simply be to avoid these thief's.



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An interesting group of RFC, ATA and early RAF wings appeared on ebay on a 3 day listing, all having been bought '...in the 1970s and 80s...' They have a touch of authenticity about them but all seem very 'home made' or immature in their manufacture...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/spanmil/m...p2047675.l2562

Then I noticed another identical set, which came from a 'diseased' collector...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/lord-fusa...p2047675.l2562

Thoughts...?
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Old 18-04-21, 07:38 AM
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...copy wings , note backing .The AFC wings are totally incorrect.
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Old 18-04-21, 10:14 AM
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So, his description of 'diseased collector is right?!

Youd have to be pretty thick to put both sets up at the same time!
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Old 18-04-21, 04:41 PM
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Default A rare collection of early RFC, ARF, RAF and ATA wings. Or are they?

Canít say I will be bidding on any of them. The concern is that in years to come, new collectors will not have first hand knowledge of how these reproductions / fakes were introduced into the market and could be taken in, paying serious money.
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Old 19-04-21, 08:28 AM
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That is always the problem, they need to be highlighted upon sites such as this forum so people are aware of them


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Canít say I will be bidding on any of them. The concern is that in years to come, new collectors will not have first hand knowledge of how these reproductions / fakes were introduced into the market and could be taken in, paying serious money.
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Old 19-04-21, 11:47 AM
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The ATA wing finally went for £160.00!
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Old 19-04-21, 06:43 PM
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A real one is worth considerably more than that, but, it does highlight the point already made regarding people assuming original items.


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