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Old 13-03-12, 06:59 PM
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Can some kind person post me a picture of a Victorian military pork pie hat, so I can see what it looks like please.

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Old 14-03-12, 09:30 AM
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Best I can do at the moment. Will try and dig something else out later. Regards Jeff

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Old 14-03-12, 10:20 AM
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Hi Kev
Another one for you. Unfortunately, unlike the shakos and helmets etc., from this era that have survived the ravages of time, the poor old "pork-pie" cap will be a very rare item these days. It was a dark blue woolen cap with a "torrie" on top and sometimes had a chin strap. Regards Jeff

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Old 14-03-12, 10:53 AM
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And another. Incidently Kev, you are not strictly accurate in describing this as a Victorian headdress. It was actually introduced in Jany 1834. Jeff

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Old 14-03-12, 11:26 AM
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And another. The PP cap was worn until about 1870 when Infantry regiments adopted the glengarry. But the Ghurkas still wore this headdress (in dark green) until after WW2 (I think) Regards Jeff

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Were the same ones used by canadians also or were they different.
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Old 14-03-12, 01:41 PM
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Were the same ones used by canadians also or were they different.
Sorry sapper, I have no idea
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Old 14-03-12, 02:15 PM
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Known officially as the "Kilmarnock" I believe in case anyone needs the term for research.

I am sure some one will correct me if I am wrong.

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Old 14-03-12, 02:58 PM
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Cheers Boy's it is what I thought it was, I have loads of photo's of them in books but none of them refer to it as a pork pie hat.
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Old 14-03-12, 05:27 PM
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Here is a photo which I have been trying to get a better image of for a few days. It's from a postcard album which belonged to my wife's Aunt.I think it's a PPH. However I would really like to know if anyone can tell me which regiment it is. I have a suspicion it's a badge like the King's but don't know.
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Old 14-03-12, 05:29 PM
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Sorry forgot the photo's!
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Old 14-03-12, 05:48 PM
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no pie for you!

except I don't know what to call it ......... look at the handsome peak .....
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It looks like a King's forage cap for an officer so probably post 1881-ish and, feel free to correct me, I am only human!
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Caps, Forage, Peaked or something similar.

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