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Old 25-01-12, 08:37 PM
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ACC chrome rank chevrons - how do we identify them? don't police wear chrome chevrons too?
All the chrome chevrons I have seen and own are plain and have a large brooch pin fitting.

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Old 25-01-12, 08:51 PM
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I was always under the impression the all brass K/C badges with lugs were collars. Are they the same size as the slidered cap badge?
Are the bi-metal K/C collars the same size as the cap badges?
The Plastic makers mark is FRASER & GLASS.
There are KC gold and silver anodized cap badges.
There are bi-metal 'we sustain' scroll badges. Were they ever worn?
There are Silver anodized 'we sustain' badges, factory cock-up?

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Old 25-01-12, 09:16 PM
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Hi i have the bronze O.S.D collars same size as cap badge but collars lugs ,cap blades .I think this applies to most regiments for O.S.D
The LB&B collars were also for officers- stated as such when purchased from THATCHAM
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Old 26-01-12, 12:26 AM
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Are you aware of the very rare, printed sign for ACC AER (yellow design of flaming brazier on grey square)?
What was that one for Mike? do we have one illustrated on the forum anywhere?

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Mike, sorry I have no examples to show you but I think that the rank chevrons worn on chef's whites are larger than the chrome police ones, Only on memory so may be wrong, regards Kevin
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All the chrome chevrons I have seen and own are plain and have a large brooch pin fitting.

Marc

been on one of the ACC sites, some in use here:
I suppose it would be nice to include them in the gallery (Think the one I've shown earlier in the thread is police)

http://www.armycateringcorps.co.uk/g...om&id=64&cat=3

http://www.armycateringcorps.co.uk/g...om&id=52&cat=3

on pocket:

http://www.armycateringcorps.co.uk/g...om&id=85&cat=3

http://www.armycateringcorps.co.uk/g...om&id=45&cat=3


[some coding issues on that site!]

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I was always under the impression the all brass K/C badges with lugs were collars. Are they the same size as the slidered cap badge?
same size. I think they must be either, due to the number of lugged badges that are about


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Are the bi-metal K/C collars the same size as the cap badges?
quite a bit smaller, cap about 38mm, collars 32mm


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There are bi-metal 'we sustain' scroll badges. Were they ever worn?
wonder if they are Private purchase / PRI ?

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Hi i have the bronze O.S.D collars same size as cap badge but collars lugs ,cap blades .I think this applies to most regiments for O.S.D
The LB&B collars were also for officers- stated as such when purchased from THATCHAM

That's interesting, the large cap badge size OSD collars were earlier that WW2 I believe; OSD collars in WW2 were the same smaller patterns that ORs wore, this also suggests to me that some of the lugged 1st pattern ACC OR cap badges are in fact collars




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Old 26-01-12, 12:43 AM
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There are Silver anodized 'we sustain' badges, factory cock-up?

not just very light gold?? I'll need one if they exist.




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Old 26-01-12, 02:13 AM
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That's interesting, the large cap badge size OSD collars were earlier that WW2 I believe.

That's rather amazing for a corps formed in 1941.

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Is there no documentation on the possible change of size from all G/M collars to bi-metal collars?

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Old 26-01-12, 02:20 AM
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There are bi-metal 'we sustain' scroll badges. Were they ever worn?
wonder if they are Private purchase / PRI ?

If they were worn they must have been, but were they worn?

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I have KC large and small anodised buttons, but have never seen cap buttons, do they exist?
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KC Anodised buttons do.
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Old 26-01-12, 05:10 PM
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Hi Mike, these are the badges of Lt Col Bratley if its of any use I can photo any of them. The bronze caps have blades, collars with lugs Mike PS I don't think the medal ribbon is his, he was in India and Burma.
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Interesting, can you see the reverse?
Are the all G/M collars lugged and cap slidered?

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Old 26-01-12, 05:42 PM
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Hi Thomas, the silver gilt are all lugged, the bronze are blades for cap badges and lugged for collars, Mike
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Old 26-01-12, 05:50 PM
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Thanks for that, but what about the ALL GILDING METAL ones?
there is some doubt wether cap badges came with lugs, your collection might clear that up.

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Hi, what you see is what you get. No gm badge. One set of collars look as though they may have been polished Mike
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I've cropped and rotated your image for the sake of clarity;
Top row: bi-metal lugged cap badge flanked by two lugged bi-metal collars.
Middle row: osd bronze cap badge with blades, flanked by two lugged osd bronze collars.
Bottom row: all gilding metal cap badge flanked by all gilding metal collars?

Correct? Interested in the bottom row.

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