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RBL Centenary Award
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Members can be nominated in 5 different catagories : 1. Collaboration. 2. Excellence. 3. Passion. 4. Service. 5. Valuing Our People. Members can be nominated by each county who can put forward one in each catagory. These will then go forward to the Area's and the winners will be in the National competition. The Cups and Shields working group will then choose the winners in each catagory and there will then be a public vote for The Legion Centenary Award Winner. The County Award Winners will each receive the badge shown below (these will not be available for sale) and the overall winner of the award will get a Gold Membership Badge. At first glance I thought the Centenary Badge was going to be extemely rare , only five being awarded , but as each county (610) can nominate five members there could possibly be 3050 issued.It will still be a 'limited' edition badge and years from now collectors (like me) will be desperately seeking them out .
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The badge in post#1 is a smaller (20mm) post WW2 Gaunt version , so it can be dated between 1945 and 1972. Gaunt had the initial contract to produce British Legion badges and I have an example of the early (1922-1928) larger version (26mm) with a horizontal pin fitting , so it is possible that this style was an option from the very start. In 1928 Gaunt lost the contract and the Birmingham Medal Company took over , they also produced a larger version (26mm) with a vertical pin fitting. In 1945 Gaunt got the contract back when the size of the badge was reduced to 20mm and they (and their subcontractors) produced badges with both horizontal and vertical pin fittings. .
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Hi Mike
This badge has a chromed finish I think. Also, see the lettering/ borders are a little "fuzzy"? This is either excessive heat applied when enameling or spending too long in the plating tank! |
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Nice badge. See that the blue enamel has darker patches in places? I'm afraid that this is the same "spotty Herbert" overheating the badge and burning the nice transparent "royal blue".... |
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The RBLWS badge appears to be a basic , modern (cheaper manufacturing costs) one , as fewer of these were produced then standards may not have been as high. .
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Hi Mike
No, I think that you are a very skilled photographer! I've seen these marks on badges before and it's usually just the manufacturer making HUNDREDS of them and the old quality control can slip. Some colours are more prone to this "burn" and transparent red is notoriously fickle. Please find attached a few large BL 9 carat badges. All were in their presentation cases and one is named. Apart from "BMCo" mark, they only have "9ct GOLD" stamped on them. The only one that bears a hallmark (for 1927-28 I think) is an unnamed badge. Apologies for the really bad pic of my thumb and finger! I've only shown it to show the position of the hallmark. As the silver badge had just "SILVER" stamped on it, maybe the expense of getting the badges assayed was too much for the maker! Anyone like to field a figure for assaying an item like this? |
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Really like the gold badges , having the original boxes (and safety chain) adds to the appeal.
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"Just checked the London Assay Office site to get an idea of costs for hallmarking. 1–2 articles in a packet = £13.00 per packet. 3 articles or over in a packet = £18 per packet + £1 per article. On top of that add VAT + return postage ( As appropriate plus £3.25 per shipment) As most manufacturers would be sending multiple items the costs wouldn't be that great , especially for gold. But for single custom made items , especially silver , the additional costs (£13.00 + VAT + appropriate postage x2 + shipment £3.25) would add a lot to the final cost of the item." .
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Hi Mike
Glad you liked them! I've not seen many of the "big 'uns" in gold for a while now. I wonder how that assay price would have been back in the late 20's. My guess is that with the Depression on the horizon it wasn't worth the extra cost, however low that was. I do also find that I also have a common or garden large Honorary Member badge in a box that must have had a gold badge in it at some stage. I'll be ready when I see the next gold badge and I'll "evict" the current tenant! As I understand it, the Member's badges were sent in a small lidded cardboard box with the number inked on the top. There may be examples of both of these lurking around here! |
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PS. Have a miniature BM Co. screwpost badge attached to a card (in a box but don't have the lid). .
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Very nice, Mike! I love it when you get these items still with their packaging (much like the odd OWS badges that still surface occasionally).
One wonders if the badges were ever worn by the recipient or if he (and she!) was just incredibly organised and always put the badge back. The other option is a bunch of unissued badges floating around. One of our local ex-servicemen's clubs had stuff from the 1920's that had never been issued. Through trading, I've ended up with one or two of them. |
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Honorary badge
Another 'fitting' variation , a small Honorary badge with clutch pin.
No makers mark but as I have a small standard members badge with clutch pin on a J.R Gaunt card this one is also probably Gaunt. Don't know when clutch pin was introduced , so can only date between 1945 -1972. .
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The clutch pin is one of the single worst creations ever used on badges.
They must be the product of a warped mind or a badgemaker keen to drum up sales with the replacing of lost badges. A friend with a keen sense of humour (and victim of several losses...) calls them "the work of the Devil"! PS Mike. I think you might be looking towards the late 1960s or early 70's for a date for their use. |
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Found a great quote :
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Date wise , the Americans started routinely using butterfly clutch pins late WW2 and no doubt examples were seen in numerous countries , so in theory they could have been used in Britain in the late 1940's or early 1950's. Dating Metallic Insignia: Clutch Fasteners Will need to do a bit more research and try to date when they were used on other badges. .
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Hi Mike
Well said! Actually, I do have a set of c. WW2 US Naval Pilot wings (with the intriguing stamp of "10k gold filled" whatever that may mean...) and those have "Dammit!" fittings. Nice wings, rubbish way to hold them in place.... |
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