WW1 Economy Cavalry badges

[Lancer 17]

Gentlemen

Going back to the begining re the Brass 17th Lancers Motto, please see my previous posts re 17 L Mottos.

The motto looks good to me, with the exception of its colour, I have 2 very dark brass mottos with sliders, the sliders have a slight taper about 42 mm long. Both Mottos have "ears" like the pre 1900 Mottos with lugs. The motto shown has the ears and a slider, I'm sorry I still have not worked out how to post photos but from my knowledge of 17 L Mottos its ok apart from the colour which looks more like Wm than brass in the photos and the problem may be in the photo rather than the Motto.

Also I have never seen a brass Motto with lugs, the only lugged Mottos are Wm in both Cap and Field Service Cap size, ie about 39 mm and 30mm top to bottom

I hope that this helps

[Lancer 17]

Originally Posted by Jibba Jabba

Ive always thought the cap badge that was worn during WW1 was brass. There was one on eBay a while ago, the only right one Ive ever seen, it came with a bed plate. After double checking my book they should be in guilded metal for WW1, so yes brass.

P.S. This isnt a cap badge, it was refered to by the 17th, 17th/21st and QRL as the 'Motto'.

Hi Jibba Jabba

Yes you are correct re the use of the title of the Motto, good to see that you make this distinction. I also deal with Regt HQ, we need to educate the masses in this regard.

By the way I an descended from a 17th Lancer Light Brigade member & survivor.

Cheers

Phil.

[KLR]

The official list of cavalry all GM 1916 issues is not as clear cut for the cavalry as for the infantry. However, there was one overriding principle that govered all these 1916 issues: all badges hitherto made in german silver (= WM) shall remain in WM. I don't have the exact wording in front of me now - I've pasted it elsewhere on the Forum before - but this is repeated throughout the whole documentation on the series. All the information is in publically accesssible archives.