Question on Formation Signs

[ian@ian-richards.com]

I am just in the process of buying a ex WW2 Matchless 3GL motorcycle and I am having a problem identifying its Formation Signs.

Here are some details of the bike:

All markings appear to be original and probably date from 1943 to
post 1952

The C number is C4842901
On the nearside is a regimental insignia which is a black rectangle
with a red border in the centre is a red cross (with ends) and a red
crown in the centre
On the offside is the C numbers and beneath that is a black
rectangle with what appears to be "Military Motorcycle Museum"
painted on it.
Above this is a white rectangle with the writing: 48.DIV.PRO.COY
On the tank is the crest of the Royal Military Police with E II R on
it.

Any assistance will be greatfully appreciated
TIA
Ian

[54Bty]

48.DIV.PRO.COY.
This is the abreviation for the Military Police Provost Company of the 48th Division.

[ian@ian-richards.com]

Thanks for that, I had worked that bit out and following up on your information I have just identified the Formation Sign.
Thanks
Ian

Originally Posted by 54Bty

48.DIV.PRO.COY.
This is the abreviation for the Military Police Provost Company of the 48th Division.

[Arthur]

Hi

I believe the formation sign to be by the discription you give as the 48th Div 2nd pattern in Military Police colours!

However, I could be wrong.

Regards
Arthur

[ian@ian-richards.com]

What do you mean by "2nd Pattern"
Thanks
Ian

Originally Posted by Arthur

Hi

I believe the formation sign to be by the discription you give as the 48th Div 2nd pattern in Military Police colours!

However, I could be wrong.

Regards
Arthur

[BWEF]

Originally Posted by ian@ian-richards.com

What do ypu mean by "2nd Pattern"
Thanks
Ian

I think he means that the cross "thingy" was the 2nd pattern sign for 48th Infantry Division.

The 1st pattern, worn from 1940 was a parrot, actually a macaw, on a perch.

[ian@ian-richards.com]

Thanks for that, any idea when the second pattern came into effect?
TIA
Ian

Originally Posted by BWEF

I think he means that the cross "thingy" was the 2nd pattern sign for 48th Infantry Division.

The 1st pattern, worn from 1940 was a parrot, actually a macaw, on a perch.

[Arthur]

Hi Ian,

In answer to your question "Any idea when the second pattern came into effect?" I have the information that I have on it:

Army Badges and Insignia Since 1945 Book One. by Guido Rosignoli:The 48th. [South Midland] Division adopted a brand new formation sign when they were re-raised after the war as a T.A. Division.

Hope this helps.

Regards
Arthur

[ian@ian-richards.com]

Many thanks to all who have provided information.
Best wishes
Ian

Originally Posted by Arthur

Hi Ian,

In answer to your question "Any idea when the second pattern came into effect?" I have the information that I have on it:

Army Badges and Insignia Since 1945 Book One. by Guido Rosignoli:The 48th. [South Midland] Division adopted a brand new formation sign when they were re-raised after the war as a T.A. Division.

Hope this helps.

Regards
Arthur