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Scarce WWII Canadian Parachute Corps Officers Cap Badge
Repro? Post War? Unmarked Scully made officers badge? Looks close to the stamped badge on page 98 of Ken Joyce's "Into the Maelstrom" but not close enough. The seller also has a South Saskatchewan Regiment Officers badge up and it looks good to me.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...%3DI%26otn%3D1 |
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Saw that one...looks bad to me...
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Not an officer badge.......almost certainly a copy. An officer badge is flat back with screw post and has "Scully/Montreal" on the back.
Jo
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There are variations to the officers' badges.
Mine is flat back with lugs, marked Scully. With provenance. Please refer to Grimshaw's book and Joyce's Into the Maelstrom for variations. Phil |
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Stamped officers badges
Í've had 2 stamped officers badges over my years of collecting. One was stamped scully...and is the example in the book Ïnto the Maelstrom". The other I had was not Scully marked but Legit.
In my collection of Perth Regiment Officer's badges, I have 3 made by Scully...all significantly different, so the idea that a manufacturer would have a single variant is false. Not all 1 Can Para officer's badges are solid and made by Scully. Gaunt also made badges. I wouldn't discount this badge.... |
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OK then Dwayne, how would I recognize a legitimate, stamped, unmarked, with lugs 1st CanPara officer's badge ???? It's just that I haven't seen one before.I'm sorry that I didn't buy "Into the maelstrom" book, so I wouldn't have to ask this question.
Cheers Jo
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Scarce WWII Canadian Parachute Corps Officers Cap Badge
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So are you saying that there is a good possibility that the badge in question could be an original? Perhaps made by Gaunt? Cheers, James |
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I,m not disagreeing with your statement Dwayne...But I don't like that badge....the bags of Andrew Butler parachute badges had all kind of bi metal ones in there that looked just like this badge....
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badges
I probably wasn't 100% clear....I was trying to say that reasons that were being used to discount the badge were not correct. Not all 1 Can Para officer's badges are Scully and solid back. I would agree that this badge is suspect....
Here are 2 scans of an original badge ...compare it with the one on Ebay and you will see some differences. The bigest one is the original badge has a seperate silver overlay...on the reverse you can see how the scully made badges have the overlay pinned onto the badge. You see the 3 dots holding the overlay on. The badge on Ebay doesn't have these. Dwayne |
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Now THAT badge I like.....mmm mmmm good....
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Couple of observations.
Dwayne's badge is clearly marked Scully. The lugs are lower down than on the eBay badge. Phil |
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Thanks Dwayne for educating me, and showing me a fine example of another type of 1st CanPara officer badge.
Cheers Jo
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"There truly exists but one perfect order: that of cemeteries. The dead never complain and they enjoy their equality in silence." - “There are things we know that we know,” “There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we do not know we don't know.” Donald Rumsfeld, before the Iraqi Invasion,2003. Age is something that doesn't matter, unless you are a cheese. |
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The Ebay badge is missing details on the parachute that the original has not to mention the method used to attach the silver overlay is different. My vote would be that it is a repro.
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I have a questionable Canadian Parachute Corps cap badge that came out of the UK. It has the red/copper tone and is lugged. I believe that these were used as the base of the UK made oficer repros.
Phil |
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Hi Phil
Just out of interest, would it be possible for you to post a picture of this badge? Cheers, James Last edited by James S; 08-03-10 at 05:25 AM. |
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