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The uniform is a standard pattern battle dress with B.Y. slip on shoulder titles blue and maroon artillery strips and Sgt stripes,should anyone want to see pics let me know and i'll post them.regards Roger
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The Arm of Service Strips should be red and blue with red to the front, if they are what you say then the colours have run.
Last edited by 54Bty; 23-09-09 at 03:51 PM. |
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According to the regtl museum the Berks Yeo had converted to RA badges post WW1 and readopted the Horse badge circa 1944.
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Hi you are quite correct about the colour it is red and the red is to the fore,the sidecap has a W /|\ D with a P over and 15 under and has only ever had the RA grenade badge on it,I am not sure what date the P stands for but think it is either 42 or 43.the BD is dated 1943 Dunlop Rubber Co.regards Roger
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Berkshire Yeomanry, bi-metal
Hello guys,
One that has been puzzling me for years, I have a brass BY, OSD, gilt IY and gilt cap badge. Was there ever a bi-metal version of this badge. If there was it certrainly is a rare beastie. If anyone has a photo of one I would be grateful. The reason I ask is that Rawlings mentions it in his book and gives a price. There is also an allusion to it in Men-at Arms series 245 British Territorial Units 1914-18, page 25. Yours Matti |
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Hi Matti,
I don't have a picture to hand I am afraid, but below are detailed the various variations of the Berkshire Imperial Yeomanry and Berkshire Yeomanry badges I have seen. If nobody posts a picture in the mean time I will have a go at the weekend. Berkshire Imperial Yeomanry : 1899 to 1908 The White Horse of Berkshire with a scroll below inscribed “Berkshire” & below this the letters “IY”. Pattern approved 23rd August 1902 in Brass. (KK 1340). OFFICERS - Slouch-Hat and Forage-Cap Badges (1) As KK1340 but in hall-marked silver. (KK) (2) As KK1340 but in silver or silver plate Not Hall-Marked. (3) As KK1340 but in gilt. (KK) (4) As KK1340 but in cast gilt. (KK) (5) As KK1340 but horse & letters “IY” in silver, whilst “Berkshire” scroll in gilt. (6) As KK1340 but in OSD/bronze (2 horizontal lugs). (* Collar? *) (7) As KK1340 but in OSD, with horizontal blades. OTHER RANKS - Slouch-Hat and Forage-Cap Badges (8) As KK1340 but in brass/gilding-metal. (KK) (9) As KK1340 but in white-metal. (KK) (10) As KK1340 but Horse and letters “IY” in white metal whilst scroll inscribed “Berkshire” in gilding-metal. Berkshire Yeomanry : 1908 to date The White Horse of Berkshire with a scroll below inscribed “Berkshire”. (KK 1449). OFFICERS - Forage Cap (11) As KK1449 but in Hall Marked Silver. (12) As KK1449 but in Silver-Plate. (13) As KK1449 but in cast silver – Lugs (14) As KK1449 but in cast silver - Blades (15) As KK1449 but in Gilt. (16) As KK1449 but in OSD/Bronze. (KK) (Blades) (17) As KK1449 but in Bronze. (KK) (Lugged) (* Collar * ?) (18) As KK1449 in blackened Brass (2xHorizontal loops) (19) As KK1449 but in Silver & Gilt. OTHER RANKS - Forage Cap (20) As KK1449 but the Horse in White-metal, the scroll in gilding-metal. (KK) (21) As KK1449 but all in gilding-metal. (KK) (22) As KK1449 but all in White-metal (23) As KK1449 but all in gold-anodised (sealed 8 May 1952). (KK) (2xH/Lugs) (24) As KK1449 but all in silver-anodised (sealed 8th May 1952) (KK) (Slider Firmin London) Please Note : (KK) represents as detailed in Kipling & King. From what I have subsequently learnt on this forum, I would pressume that the OSD/Bronzed badges with lugs (nos 6 & 17) for both the Berks IY and Berks Yeo are maybe collars as OSD badges had blades, though the officer's already used a bronzed version of the Star and crescent collar badge. Anyway hope this is of some help. Ian |
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Berkshire Yeomanry Collar?
Although well documented the collar badge worn by the Berkshire yeomanry is the star and crescent taken from the Arms of Hungerford. I believe the badge in the thumb nails to be a variation, it is die stamped gilding metal and at some time silver plated. Any advice appreciated. Cheers Sean.
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Hi Sean,
No 81 in Churchill & Westlakes book shows your collar in G/M & No 82 shows the star & crescent in bronze, maybe yours is OR's only ? Wilf. |
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It looks like their No1 Dress Arm badge. I have seen the Yeomanry in their blues and the NCOs were wearing them on their sleeves above their stripes and not on their collars.
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If it is white metal I would also go for arm badge. The arm badge is worn on No1s and I see it most Remembrance days as we go to the war memorial in Windsor down by the river which is dedicated to the Berks Yeomanry.
Matti |
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Hi folks,
As mentioned above, the White horse of Berkshire over a scroll inscribed "Berkshire", was worn in facing pairs as collar badges (Churchill & Westlake Nos.81). Size : 33mm W x 19mm H. This is the normal Other Ranks pattern collar badge. (Generally Officer's used the Star and crescent badge.) I have seen or heard of them in:
In Hodges book (page 381), he shows the following 2 versions of these collar badges: (a) Chrome(?) version which he states is: Soldier's Number 1 Dress Collar badges (3.25cm x 1.75cm). (b) Number 2 Dress Cast collar badges (3.25cm x 1.75cm) The Arm badge is of the same design but is usually much bigger (51mm W x 28mm H) (I believe the same size as the Cap badge), faces left and is worn above the Rank Stripes. This is usually in Chrome or Silver Plate. In Hodges book (page 381), he shows the large Arm Badge as: "Berkshire Yeomanry Senior NCOs Rank Badge (5.25cm x 3cm). Also worn as a pouch badge." An embroidered/bullion version of the arm badge is also available for use on full dress. I see my measurements and Hodges vary slightly, must get a digital micrometer. Cheers Ian |
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So good news is two less badges to look out for. |
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He would not be a Trooper, but a Corporal signal instructor if I read that right. Very nice photo.
CB
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