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Old 14-10-18, 02:44 PM
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Default Officer's peaked cap, whose and when?

Could someone please tell me which regiment's officers wore this type of cap so that I can find a replacement badge? The chin strap and buttons are also missing so no clues there. The badge appears to have been held in place at its bottom edge by a small, metal tang.

Does anyone recognise the label (sadly unreadable)? Can anyone give a rough date?

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Old 14-10-18, 02:56 PM
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A field officers cap of a "royal regiment", worn by many different regiments and corps.
The "tang" is, I believe, to keep the chinstrap from slipping over the badge when the cap is placed upside down.
Basically, if you can't identify what badges were on the cap from outlines on the fabric or from markings inside,
many different units can be considered.
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Many thanks. There really is no definitive outline where the cap badge has been but I guess that a nice bronzed R.F.A. O.S.D would fill the gap.
Would the cap band be of the same black polished leather as the peak?
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Old 14-10-18, 03:13 PM
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I don't know how old the cap is, Jerry will probably have an idea.
I almost added to my post above that a RA gilt badge and buttons would probably be the easiest insignia to lay hands on.
The chinstrap would be of black patent leather with leather "flattened tube" slide fittings rather than metal.
I don't know whether OSD regimental badges would have been worn at some time in the past.
I should've mentioned that staff officers would wear the cap too.
Not always the case, obviously, but I always double check such caps which have had more than one badge to see whether they may have had regimental badges replaced by a 1950's - 60's Admin Brigade one, an obvious legitimate reason for "double holes".
Your cap looks old enough to have had metal buttons (gilt, gilt - silver etc) rather than the later anod aluminium ones.

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Old 14-10-18, 07:04 PM
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I'm not a cap expert but it's definitely not a SD cap - so no bronzed OSD.


I would think it's your choice !
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Although not quite the same, I think you can just make out the hook that holds the chinstrap in place. It also gives an idea of the type of badge that you need. My example is dated 1937.

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late interwars or WWII imo from the shape of the peak, though the clip under the chinstrap is usally an early feature so perhaps early interwars.

As already stated, there is quite a number of regiments or corps it could be from.
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Old 14-10-18, 09:21 PM
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Although not quite the same, I think you can just make out the hook that holds the chinstrap in place. It also gives an idea of the type of badge that you need. My example is dated 1937.
Nice - a thin chinstrap, when did they change to the wider type? How'd you get the date, stamped inside the sweatband?
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I've got one virtually identical to this. Mine has a strap with KC GS buttons. The strap is black. It has a maker's mark (or more correctly a retail logo) on the sweatband. A bit of research revealed that the outfitters who supplied the cap were wound up in 1930. If a photo is required happy to post.
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Yes please, photos sound good to me.
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Old 15-10-18, 08:33 AM
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Clearly I should not have used the term O.S.D. to describe the badge required to complete the refurbishment of this cap.

Does anyone have a spare thin chin strap of the appropriate age for sale?
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