Glider Pilots Regiment Cap Badge in QC - Page 5 - British & Commonwealth Military Badge Forum

hagwalther · #61 04-09-09, 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fougasse1940

And what would that source be?

Rgds,
fougasse1940

Imperial War Museum box (stuck to inner lid) on Glider Pilot Regt badges (and Army Air Corp) as per the 1942 card I previously posted re: British Army badges dated 1970.

Regards

Chris

badgecollector · #62 18-09-09, 03:29 AM

hi guys
here are my glider pilot collar badge pair.
beautifully made
what are your thoughts?
bc

grey_green_acorn · #63 18-09-09, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hagwalther

Imperial War Museum box (stuck to inner lid) on Glider Pilot Regt badges (and Army Air Corp) as per the 1942 card I previously posted re: British Army badges dated 1970.

Regards

Chris

That illustration looks like a photocopy of a page from one of the editions of "Regimental Badges" by Edwards?

Just checked. The page (156) is identical in Editions 4 and 5.

Alan O · #64 18-09-09, 01:16 PM

It certainly is one of Edwards' pages: the design is quite distinctive.

Alan

hagwalther · #65 18-09-09, 08:03 PM

Hi Guys,

re: Edwards pages - do we have a date when this page was published?

Regards

Chris

Alan O · #66 18-09-09, 08:09 PM

There were several editions in the 1950s and 1960s.

Alan

grey_green_acorn · #67 18-09-09, 08:38 PM

Chris,

Regimental Badges by Major T J Edwards M.B.E. FRHistS

First Published 1951
Reprinted 1953
2nd Edition 1957
3rd Edition 1963
4th Edition 1966
5th Edition 1968
6th Edition 1974 ISBN 0 85314 214 9 (prepared by Arthur L Kipling (of K&K))
1st Edition reprinted 1972 ISBN 85314 138 X

So the AAC page is from the 4th Edition (1966) or 5th Edition (1968). However, the 3rd Edition (1963) has the same information and illustrations on page 161. The 6th Edition (1974) the same information on page 158.
The 1st Edition reprint (1972) illustrates only the KC AAC and GPR badges on pages 252-252. I do not own a 2nd Edition!

hagwalther · #68 18-09-09, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grey_green_acorn

Chris,

Regimental Badges by Major T J Edwards M.B.E. FRHistS

First Published 1951
Reprinted 1953
2nd Edition 1957
3rd Edition 1963
4th Edition 1966
5th Edition 1968
6th Edition 1974 ISBN 0 85314 214 9 (prepared by Arthur L Kipling (of K&K))
1st Edition reprinted 1972 ISBN 85314 138 X

So the AAC page is from the 4th Edition (1966) or 5th Edition (1968). However, the 3rd Edition (1963) has the same information and illustrations on page 161. The 6th Edition (1974) the same information on page 158.
The 1st Edition reprint (1972) illustrates only the KC AAC and GPR badges on pages 252-252. I do not own a 2nd Edition!

Thanks - I've seen a copy on the web and an ordering it - hopefully they will ship to New Zealand.

Regards

chris

Luc · #69 26-10-11, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hagwalther

While 'KC' badges were made and issued I found that only a few samples (four) to the 'QC' version were made in white metal.

I would like to add a little bit of information to what Chris had already found: .

badjez · #70 26-10-11, 08:09 PM

From the Ordnance List of Changes:

Change No4746 published 31.12.51.
Buttons. Glider Pilot Regt.Large (Cat No CA 2596).Small. Fixed Shank (Cat No CA 2598).Small. Drop Shank (Cat No CA 2597).
Badges, Cap. Glider Pilot Regt. (Cat No CB 2791).
Badges, Collar. Glider Pilot Regt. (Cat No CB 2792).

Introduction.Patterns (No 14492, 14493 Buttons) and (No 14494 and 14495 badges) have been sealed to govern future manufacture and are hereby introduced.Design.
Badges- In white metal, a continuous scroll leaving the words ‘Glider Pilot Regiment’ surmounted by a crown, within the scroll, an eagle.
Design. Buttons- As for Badges, but in gilding metal.
= = =

Change No 6973 published 31.01.56.
Badges, Cap. Glider Pilot Regt.WM (Cat No CB 7518).
Badges, Collar. Glider Pilot Regt.WM (Pair) (Cat No CB 7519).
1. New Pattern.Patterns (No 16955 and 16956 respectively) of the above-mentioned items have been sealed to govern future manufacture.The new pattern differs from the old (No 14494 and 14495) (Cat No CB 2791 and CB 2792) (See C4746) in that they incorporate the St. Edward Crown.The existing Cat No (CB 3141 and CB 3491) (See C4717 and C6441) will be retained for the new patterns in anodised aluminium.Badges, Cap. Glider Pilot Regt.WM. OP (Cat No CB 2791).Badges, Collar. Glider Pilot Regt.WM. OP (Pair) (Cat No CB 2792).
2. Change of Designation.Obsolescent.Consequent upon ‘1’ the designation of the above-mentioned items (Previously ‘Badges, Cap, Glider Pilot R. WM, and Badges, Collar, Glider Pilot R. WM’ are changed to read as shown and the item is hereby declared obsolescent.
= = =

Whilst neither of these entries confirm manufacture, they at least show authorisation of WM KC. AA isn't mentioned until the QC version.
Off-hand I cannot confirm date of disbandment for the Regt, but I think it was about 1957. AS new badges took some 12 months to produce I doubt the QC version made it past a design stage before disbandment.

Stephen.

hagwalther · #71 26-10-11, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luc

I would like to add a little bit of information to what Chris had already found: .

Thanks Luc,

Yes, one the Imperial War Museum collection.

Regards

Chris

hagwalther · #72 26-10-11, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badjez

From the Ordnance List of Changes:

Change No4746 published 31.12.51.
Buttons. Glider Pilot Regt.Large (Cat No CA 2596).Small. Fixed Shank (Cat No CA 2598).Small. Drop Shank (Cat No CA 2597).
Badges, Cap. Glider Pilot Regt. (Cat No CB 2791).
Badges, Collar. Glider Pilot Regt. (Cat No CB 2792).

Introduction.Patterns (No 14492, 14493 Buttons) and (No 14494 and 14495 badges) have been sealed to govern future manufacture and are hereby introduced.Design.
Badges- In white metal, a continuous scroll leaving the words ‘Glider Pilot Regiment’ surmounted by a crown, within the scroll, an eagle.
Design. Buttons- As for Badges, but in gilding metal.
= = =

Change No 6973 published 31.01.56.
Badges, Cap. Glider Pilot Regt.WM (Cat No CB 7518).
Badges, Collar. Glider Pilot Regt.WM (Pair) (Cat No CB 7519).
1. New Pattern.Patterns (No 16955 and 16956 respectively) of the above-mentioned items have been sealed to govern future manufacture.The new pattern differs from the old (No 14494 and 14495) (Cat No CB 2791 and CB 2792) (See C4746) in that they incorporate the St. Edward Crown.The existing Cat No (CB 3141 and CB 3491) (See C4717 and C6441) will be retained for the new patterns in anodised aluminium.Badges, Cap. Glider Pilot Regt.WM. OP (Cat No CB 2791).Badges, Collar. Glider Pilot Regt.WM. OP (Pair) (Cat No CB 2792).
2. Change of Designation.Obsolescent.Consequent upon ‘1’ the designation of the above-mentioned items (Previously ‘Badges, Cap, Glider Pilot R. WM, and Badges, Collar, Glider Pilot R. WM’ are changed to read as shown and the item is hereby declared obsolescent.
= = =

Whilst neither of these entries confirm manufacture, they at least show authorisation of WM KC. AA isn't mentioned until the QC version.
Off-hand I cannot confirm date of disbandment for the Regt, but I think it was about 1957. AS new badges took some 12 months to produce I doubt the QC version made it past a design stage before disbandment.

Stephen.

Thanks Stephen,

Regards

Chris