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Old 07-09-16, 06:09 PM
Alex Rice Alex Rice is offline
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Hi Michael
Firstly, I am no expert and there are variations I believe, but I don't like the Hawke badge. The beak looks wrong, the top of the bird's head looks odd and there are flaws between the 2 srolls. Unless it is an OSD collar badge, the poor detail on the rear is not a good sign.
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Old 07-09-16, 06:27 PM
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Like Alex I'm not a fan of your Hawke badge. The shape of the head and the beak are the first things that give it away for me then the font of the scrolls and the alignment of the letters on the scrolls. On what I consider to be genuine badges the E of Strike sits almost above the E of Hawke, on most copies the E of Strike sits either right in the middle of the gap between the K & E of Hawke or even partially over the K like yours. I believe the back is even worse, the Gaunt plate is the nice crisp modern type found on copies whereas the genuine ones are pretty poor quality stampings in comparison, the positioning of the plate is also wrong, it should be between the 2 lugs and not on the back of the bottom scroll. Lack of detail is also a bad sign. I have attached pics of what I consider to be a good one and pictures of a right facing officer's OSD collar so that you can see the differences.

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Old 08-09-16, 07:32 AM
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Thanks for the replies everyone. I'm disappointed (obviously) but I suppose you live and learn.

The seller does offer a 14 day money back option so I'll have to have a think. I wanted it for a "family tree" type display I'm doing and while I'd rather have a real one it might still do for that.

Thanks again,

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Old 18-05-20, 10:37 AM
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For the RND MG badge:

With provenance but with out the abbreviation dots in the title.
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drake, hood, howe, nelson, rnd, royal naval division

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