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Old 26-09-21, 02:02 PM
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Default Manchester 1st V.B.

Could anyone tell me if this badge is real and give advice as to what to look for in the original manchester v b badges
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Old 26-09-21, 02:20 PM
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Very fake.

There are several good Manchester threads. If you search ‘Manchester’ and ‘Volunteer’ in the forum’s search engine they should come up.
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Old 26-09-21, 02:31 PM
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https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...ctureid=162345

I think this one is genuine.
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Old 26-09-21, 02:44 PM
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Certainly a genuine example.

As is this one: https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...ctureid=183279
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Old 26-09-21, 02:51 PM
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The badge in the opening post is a FAKE.

Lots of pointers, colour, font, mark under the 1VB and the footed loops.

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Old 26-09-21, 02:58 PM
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is this 2nd V B one real, if not how do you tell the fakes
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Old 26-09-21, 03:19 PM
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here are the others i have got are they any good also
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Old 26-09-21, 03:53 PM
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Dave S,

All the ones you show are Fakes.

Lots of reasons, but heres a few pointers.

Never had sliders.
Only the 2nd VB was bimetal
Footed loops are a sign of a fake.
The one with a T fixed to it is a pure fantasy.
A WW1 all brass economy badge doesnt exist.

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Old 26-09-21, 04:02 PM
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ok thanks
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Old 26-09-21, 04:23 PM
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hi simon yes sorry for that i have not been buying for long and am realizing that it is a true minefield and am wondering whether to give up badges for collecting as god knows what other horrors i have bought and lost money on, thanks for your help anyways
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Old 26-09-21, 06:30 PM
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Hi Dave,

if you enjoy collecting badges, don't give up. This forum is full of friendly collectors who would be willing to help you in determining if a badge is good. I only started collecting a few years ago and , like you, made quite a few mistakes by jumping in and buying badges sometimes on ebay or from poor dealer sites. I quickly learned to check on here before purchasing higher value badges and found it better to purchase badges from fellow members on here or from dealers with a good reputation on the forum.

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Old 26-09-21, 06:39 PM
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I would strongly advise against buying VB badges as the vast majority for sale are fakes. The VB badges were often to singe units and worn for only a few years before the 1908 reforms. Start with something more recent and made in greater numbers!
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Old 26-09-21, 06:56 PM
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I would echo Alan’s comments. If new to the hobby V.B.’s are not perhaps the best starting place since genuine badges are few, fakery prolific and mistakes expensive.
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Old 26-09-21, 08:10 PM
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thanks for everyone's views and encouragement and maybe it would be better to pick something like the 1st or 2nd war periods which is where my interests generally lie
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Old 26-09-21, 08:23 PM
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Both WW1 and WW2 are excellent themes. My advice would be to start with Infantry of the Line and Corps & Services then work up from there.

Beware there are lots of fakes but also a lot of genuine badges which can still be had for the £7-10 range so mistakes aren’t as costly as other disciplines.
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