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Old 22-01-22, 06:54 PM
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Default Leinster Badge, is it Victorian?

Hi all,
Just bought this badge. It appears genuine to my non expert eye. As it is lugged does that indicate it is a Victorian/Early Edwardian example?
It is full cap badge size.
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Old 22-01-22, 06:57 PM
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Yes that is correct.

Shame about the break.
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Old 22-01-22, 06:58 PM
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Yes it is right for that period.
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Old 22-01-22, 07:15 PM
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Thanks both, and well spotted Luke, I had missed that. S**t.

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Old 22-01-22, 07:43 PM
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That is a fairly typical example, a great many were altered prior to be issued in King Edwards's day with the removal of the lugs and the addition of a slider, the fracture is not of any great significance, after all, it's not that you are going to actually wear it yourself, so I should not worry about it too much, notwithstanding, a very common badge and easily replaced if you are unhappy.


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Hi all,
Just bought this badge. It appears genuine to my non expert eye. As it is lugged does that indicate it is a Victorian/Early Edwardian example?
It is full cap badge size.
Cheers
John
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Old 22-01-22, 07:52 PM
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Interesting - I was unaware that lugs were removed and replaced by sliders.
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Old 24-01-22, 12:54 PM
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The Leinster badge was authorised in February 1897, with WO Pattern no 4492/1897.

Yes, lugs were removed and replaced by sliders in 1906
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Old 24-01-22, 01:34 PM
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"The Leinster badge was authorised in February 1897, withe WO Pattern no 4492/1897.

Yes, lugs were removed and replaced by sliders as WO below

"Labels on helmet Plate badges to be worn on new Service Dress Hats to be amended to read, Badges for Service Dress Hats to be fitted with Vertical Shanks same as Dorset Pattern No 5814/1903. Dorset badge to be fitted same as Leinster Pattern No 10010""

So that applied to "cap badges" as well as HPCs?
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Old 24-01-22, 03:47 PM
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Sorry, the "Labels on helmet......


was the wrong badge, it was like this one
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Old 24-01-22, 03:48 PM
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Thanks.
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Old 24-01-22, 03:50 PM
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I'll go back to the siesta (I'm retired after all)
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Old 24-01-22, 05:13 PM
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Welcome to the delights of day time TV - pushing up Z's on the settee is a good way to abvoid it.
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Old 27-01-22, 08:23 PM
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Yes, many extant badges had their lugs removed and then replaced with the typical slider of the period.

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